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Seeking Info On Expert Pcm/ecu Computer Check/repair Services For Eec Iv Computers

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Looking for a good company that can CHECK and or REPAIR my EEC IV computer to fix anything necessary before installing a Moated Quarter horse. Anyone found or used a service that specializes in being able to check out all operations of computer and repair if necessary ... your suggestion and why would be very appreciated!

As far as I know my computer is fine but would like to get it checked out by a pro who has all necessary equipment to test. Not interested in replacement computer .. want mine back ... checked ... and fixed if anything found.

Suggestions .....
 

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FoMoCo17 said:
Looking for a good company that can CHECK and or REPAIR my EEC IV computer to fix anything necessary before installing a Moated Quarter horse. Anyone found or used a service that specializes in being able to check out all operations of computer and repair if necessary ... your suggestion and why would be very appreciated!

As far as I know my computer is fine but would like to get it checked out by a pro who has all necessary equipment to test. Not interested in replacement computer .. want mine back ... checked ... and fixed if anything found.

Suggestions .....
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anyone?
 

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Don't bother. Just install the quarterhorse.
 

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I've never used them, but two I've seen mentioned in the forums are:

Auto ECM Electronics
AES Modules
 

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You would know if the EEC was not working properly. Are you getting any codes, driveability issues?
 

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no real driveability issues ... just rough idle ... been thru it and checked everything at least 10 times .... thought maybe caps were going bad or something .. so thought a check might be warranted by someone who knows these things. no codes all summer .... just runs rough at idle.

yes found those sites online also .... was wondering if anyone actually used a site and could recommend for their quality work ....

yes ... think in about just installing quarter horse n seeing if it identifies anything that then can be adjusted . just thought it might be prudent to get it checked before opening another can of worms ... lol

with it being 24 years old n the cap prob n a few trace problems I've read about ... was wondering if I should send it out .. and where ... what do you think ...
 

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addermk2 said:
Don't bother. Just install the quarterhorse.
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With the hundred or so cars I've tuned in the last two years, I have yet to find a bad pcm.
 

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Dump the codes, fix what shows up. Do this before you start making modifications. Otherwise you will be plagued by the question "Did my modifications mess up something or was it bad before I started?"

When all the sensors and wiring are good, the computer's internal self test will post an 11, which is system pass. If you got that 11, I wouldn't do anything more that check to see if the capacitors aren't bulging or leaking electrolyte.

Dump the codes: Codes may be present even if the Check Engine Light (CEL) isn't on.

Dumping the computer diagnostic codes on 86-95 Mustangs

Revised 26-July-2011. Added need to make sure the clutch is pressed when dumping codes.

Codes may be present even if the check engine light hasn’t come on, so be sure to check for them.

Here's the way to dump the computer codes with only a jumper wire or paper clip and the check engine light, or test light or voltmeter. I’ve used it for years, and it works great. You watch the flashing test lamp or Check Engine Light and count the flashes.

Post the codes you get and I will post 86-93 model 5.0 Mustang specific code definitions and fixes. I do not have a complete listing for 94-95 model 5.0 Mustangs at this time.

Be sure to turn off the A/C, and put the transmission in neutral when dumping the codes. On a manual transmission car, be sure to press the clutch to the floor.
Fail to do this and you will generate a code 67 and not be able to dump the Engine Running codes.





If your car is an 86-88 stang, you'll have to use the test lamp or voltmeter method. There is no functional check engine light on the 86-88's except possibly the Cali Mass Air cars.



The STI has a gray connector shell and a white/red wire. It comes from the same bundle of wires as the self test connector.

89 through 95 cars have a working Check Engine light. Watch it instead of using a test lamp.



The STI has a gray connector shell and a white/red wire. It comes from the same bundle of wires as the self test connector.


WARNING!!! There is a single dark brown connector with a black/orange wire. It is the 12 volt power to the under the hood light. Do not jumper it to the computer test connector. If you do, you will damage the computer.

What to expect:
You should get a code 11 (two single flashes in succession). This says that the computer's internal workings are OK, and that the wiring to put the computer into diagnostic mode is good. No code 11 and you have some wiring problems. This is crucial: the same wire that provides the ground to dump the codes provides signal ground for the TPS, EGR, ACT and Map/Baro sensors. If it fails, you will have poor performance, economy and driveablity problems

Some codes have different answers if the engine is running from the answers that it has when the engine isn't running. It helps a lot to know if you had the engine running when you ran the test.

Dumping the Engine Running codes: The procedure is the same, you start the engine with the test jumper in place. Be sure the A/C is off, and clutch (if present) is pressed to the floor, and the transmission is in neutral. You'll get an 11, then a 4 and the engine will speed up to do the EGR test. After the engine speed decreases back to idle, it will dump the engine running codes.

Trouble codes are either 2 digit or 3 digit, there are no cars that use both 2 digit codes and 3 digit codes.

Your 86-88 5.0 won't have a working Check Engine Light, so you'll need a test light.
See AutoZone Part Number: 25886 , $10




Alternate methods:
For those who are intimidated by all the wires & connections, see Actron® for what a typical hand scanner looks like. Normal retail price is about $30 or so at AutoZone or Wal-Mart.

Or for a nicer scanner see www.midwayautosupply.com/Equus-Digital-Ford-Code-Reader/dp/B000EW0KHW Equus - Digital Ford Code Reader (3145It has a 3 digit LCD display so that you don’t have to count flashes or beeps.. Cost is $22-$36.
 
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