Sell my 2v to get a 4v

#22
I just did exactly what you are looking to do.

I had a 96GT vert which I sold for a nice(but dirty) 96 Cobra vert.

I can attest to a few things... The feeling of owning a Cobra definitely adds to the self gratification factor alot. The car gets alot more looks and "wows" just 'cuz its a Cobra lol... That being said I think the GT I had looked great too and I kinda miss having it actually...

If you want to go fast, I would probably do what everyone here has said and stick with the GT... The 4v exhaust note is pretty sweet though I'm not gonna lie haha. I will say that I truly cant wait for 4.10s... I'm sure I will love tha car even more after those puppies are installed.

Conversely my insurance quote was $120 cheaper than the GT for some reason... Both cars were 96's, both had ABS and an antitheft system... The insurance agents explanation for the price drop was this:

He said that even though the car is more powerful than a GT, the better braking system on the Cobra actually warrants a higher safety discount... I guess my insurance company appreciated the Cobra brakes as much as we all do haha.
 
#24
Mr. Rustypwnz said:
are you in early county or douglas county? we have about the same cars (looks wise) but im currently setting up my ported pi head swap, and should be done by next week. you should take a ride when im done, should be solid 12's, ive thought about 4v's but the sound of lt and stingers with an x pipe, wants to make me puke. (heard it all summer annoying after the 2nd car)

a ported pi swap car will almost everytime will beat a 96-98 cobra and the insurance is half.. plus you will usually make more tq..
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I'm in douglas county.
 
#25
Mr. Rustypwnz said:
are you in early county or douglas county? we have about the same cars (looks wise) but im currently setting up my ported pi head swap, and should be done by next week. you should take a ride when im done, should be solid 12's, ive thought about 4v's but the sound of lt and stingers with an x pipe, wants to make me puke. (heard it all summer annoying after the 2nd car)

a ported pi swap car will almost everytime will beat a 96-98 cobra and the insurance is half.. plus you will usually make more tq..
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Let me know when you get done i've never ridden in a npi pi swap 96-98 car. It would be interesting to see how much harder she pulls.
 
#26
westgastang4.6 said:
Well now i'm kinda torn now thanks to what winters said. But what I may do is mod it a little bit and then sell it.
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Most anybody that has been doing this for a while will tell you that it is very rare to get the value of the mods back out of a car. Most only get a fraction of the $$ spent on mods. If your plan is to sell, do not put additional money into the car as it is unlikely you will get a fair return.

In fact, depending upon the mods done, it may actually hurt the resale value. The reason is several fold.
  • The buyer might want a stock car
  • The buyer might want different mods.
  • The buyer might not believe the mods are worth what you think they are.
In short, anything that reduces the number of possible buyers is likely to reduce the chances of a sale.

Perform any basic repairs. They can give a good return on the money spent.

If the plan is to mod it and keep it for enjoyment, go for it. :nice:
 
#27
I agree 100% with the above.

Another thing to consider. If you have a vehicle that is worth 4-7k, and you put in a 4-5k in Trickflow heads/cams/install cost/tune, or a blower/install/tune, you are in a heck of a mess if you hit something and total your car in a front end collision.

That is why you are better off using a high hp, older car for a weekend car, or just buying a newer car that is faster out of the box so that if something were to happen, you can get more back since you have not invested as much in aftermarket parts.
 
#29
westgastang4.6 said:
Let me know when you get done i've never ridden in a npi pi swap 96-98 car. It would be interesting to see how much harder she pulls.
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its night and day, our last 96 gt was a ported pi swap (like the one im doing) and it made 300rwhp, and the whole car changed, it would take down lightly modded ls1 cars.. mine eventually will have the eddy intake on it, longtubes, and some nasty cams.. then im looking for 325+rwhp..
 
#31
Crzyhrse said:
Just do what you feel the strongest urge to do. I could have kept my '93GT and kept modding the snot out of it, but when I first heard the Mach 1 was being made again (back in 2001) I dropped my GT like a hot potato and sold it. I've never regretted it for 1 second. To me, it was worth it. Modding wise, I don't know about the '96-'98 Cobra, but for the Mach we share some mod parts with the GT so the prices are'nt more expensive or anything. When you get into the cams, heads, and Intake manifolds then you'll run into more expense. Other than that the N/A 4V is'nt anymore expensive.
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+1

All of the stuff you can do to a 2v you can do to a 4v usually with better results.

I traded my '02 for a '03 Mach back in '03 and just last year, a month after i paid it off, I spun a rod bearing, then I had to rebuild, for better or worse I wanted to stay n/a and now with CAI/SLP LTs/SLP catted X/magnapack catback/Cams and tune I'm sitting right near 360 rwhp/330 rwtq...I'm going to add 4.30s this spring then probably have my intake worked on after that. Hoping to be around 370 rwhp when it's all said and done, if I won the lottery I'd have my heads worked on and then I'd be closer to 400 rwhp N/A but I doubt that will ever happen.

Best thing to do is figure out what your willing to spend because this **** all adds up fast, trust me and go from there.

That being said, nothing like sitting at a stop light with teh shaker actually shaking :flag:

I do know the 2v aftermarket is really coming around now so good luck with whatever you decide.
 
#32
westgastang4.6 said:
I don't know much about the 5.0's. I know they're very affordable and i've been told that they're easier to work on than the 4.6.
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For certain things like head and cam changes, yes. I wouldn’t say so much easier, as I would say less involved.

On the other hand, basic maintenance like plug changes and pretty much anything above the heads are all much, much easier and cleaner to perform with a modular engine.
 
#33
Gearbanger 101 said:
For certain things like head and cam changes, yes. I wouldn’t say so much easier, as I would say less involved.

On the other hand, basic maintenance like plug changes and pretty much anything above the heads are all much, much easier and cleaner to perform with a modular engine.
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I have never changed or really worked on a mod engine - but plug changes are really that much easier? I didn't think they could get any easier then they are on the pushrod 5.0? They are like, right in you're face. I'm curious though! I'd like own a mod engine'd stang some day :)
 
#34
1990Coupe said:
I have never changed or really worked on a mod engine - but plug changes are really that much easier? I didn't think they could get any easier then they are on the pushrod 5.0? They are like, right in you're face. I'm curious though! I'd like own a mod engine'd stang some day :)
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Changing plugs in a mod engine are literally a straight shot. No piggy-backing flex sockets, or burnt/scrapped knuckles on exhaust manifolds or studs, no struggling to remove plug wires without damaging them and swapping back and forth between the long and the short to get to the plugs at the very back of the engine. Changing them on a mod motor quite simply require s little more than an extension and a spark plug socket.

It’s really one of the few welcome benefits of working on one of these engines. :nice:
 
#35
#39
Crzyhrse said:
I would love to do this to my Mach, especially after I went through inspection a couple months ago and it was a joke. Same story, lack of funds. :(
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Yup, it def is pricey an luckily I have a bit of a gear-head for a wife...she paid for my cams as a birthday gift :) and it was the sensible thing to do since I was going through a rebuild anyway.

Either way it's nice having something a little different because you don't really see that many cammed mod motors running around especially 4vs...def draws attention when I'm rolling down the street. :p
 
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