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8950HO

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When under tension when letting it rip or racing people tend to force or muscle the 2-3 shift compared to when they shift under normal driving.

Practise not overly forcing the 2-3 shift under these conditions,especially with a good aftermarket shifter.
 

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MYSTICSVT said:
The key is having a shifter with really stiff detent springs. Like the Pro 5.0 or the Steeda Tri-ax. I've been able to easily powershift(no letting up on the throttle between shifts) using these two shifters, in various Mustang's, with much success. I've probably only missed half a dozen shifts in thousands of powershifts over the past few years.
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My mgw supposedly has one of the strongest springs, I just don't see how it helps that much when you're shifting that fast. I always powershift as well. Maybe it just helps more than I realize.
 
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90mustang_GT5.0 said:
you have one what? pro or mgw ?
is it in good shape and why do you wanna get rid of it ?
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It's a Pro 5.0. in perfect shape. It only has 500 miles on it. I put it in my T-5 when I did the AOD to manual conversion and I blew the tranny at exactly 500 miles. After I blew the T-5 I bought a Tremec TKO 600 and they use a different style shifter. I loved it for those 500 miles though. My offer still stands if you are interested.
 
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Hey I work for pro 5.0 and MGW Shifters are not the same. The reason why our shifter and Steedas shifters are more expensive is because our shifters are more expensive to make. We both use billet components through out. Our shifters are made to shift better 50,000 miles from now. We even use anodized steel on all of the wearable parts that take the most abuse. We also use a highly porous Teflon material for our center ball. It is the same material that doctors use for hip replacements because it is sooo durable. The Quality of the material also makes it self lubricating. It is permeated with Lucas grease. It took us 2 years just to decide on the best grease to use. We pride ourselves on making the best and we also commend Steeda for coming out with ever better products that help us push ourselves to the limit of technology, Materials, and craftsmanship.
I would recommend a Steeda, a hurst, even a B&M, but not an MGW because they are cheap and will fall apart.
 

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My mgw supposedly has one of the strongest springs, I just don't see how it helps that much when you're shifting that fast. I always powershift as well. Maybe it just helps more than I realize.
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Yes, it really helps. I built my Mustang with a WC T5 with a Steeda Tri-Ax shifter.

When I was first getting to know my Mustang, I was having a hard time with the 2-3 shift....because I was trying to find third myself. I have been driving stick for 15 years and always had to shift up and to an angle for the 2-3 shift. So naturally that is what I was doing in the Mustang. At the track, I was occasionally still missing 3rd. Then one day, sitting waiting for my run, I just started going through the motions for the 2-3 shift. Then I noticed that the centering spring was stronger than I am...or in other words, the centering spring is faster that I am. So I started holding the clutch in with the car running sitting still, and just tried to see how fast I could move the shifter up and see where it ended up. Each time it ended up in 3rd, I even tried to go from second to first quickly, by just pushing up on the shifter...and it went into 3rd every time.

Once I realized that the spring was faster than my hand, all I do is pull straight down from 1-2, and push straight up from 2-3. You do not need to move your hand to the side and aim for 3rd.
 

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I have a pro 5.0 in my car now and had a MGW in my Cobra. I miss 3rd with both shifters, but more with the MGW. I like the pro 5.0 better and I think the MGW while its a nice shifter is over hyped. I still miss 3rd but only when im in it hard and try to shift fast. I guess ya just have to find what works for you and stick with it.
 

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I've driven a lot more cars with stock shifters and others since putting the mgw in my car. I've found that the shifter has nothing to do with shifting really, and any missing of gears is driver error or a mechanical problem. I have no problem hitting 3rd powershifting any shifter now that I've had a lot of practice.

LILJOEPRO5.0 said:
Hey I work for pro 5.0 and MGW Shifters are not the same. The reason why our shifter and Steedas shifters are more expensive is because our shifters are more expensive to make. We both use billet components through out. Our shifters are made to shift better 50,000 miles from now. We even use anodized steel on all of the wearable parts that take the most abuse. We also use a highly porous Teflon material for our center ball. It is the same material that doctors use for hip replacements because it is sooo durable. The Quality of the material also makes it self lubricating. It is permeated with Lucas grease. It took us 2 years just to decide on the best grease to use. We pride ourselves on making the best and we also commend Steeda for coming out with ever better products that help us push ourselves to the limit of technology, Materials, and craftsmanship.
I would recommend a Steeda, a hurst, even a B&M, but not an MGW because they are cheap and will fall apart.
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The build quality of the mgw is fantastic.
 

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LILJOEPRO5.0 said:
Hey I work for pro 5.0 and MGW Shifters are not the same. The reason why our shifter and Steedas shifters are more expensive is because our shifters are more expensive to make. We both use billet components through out. Our shifters are made to shift better 50,000 miles from now. We even use anodized steel on all of the wearable parts that take the most abuse. We also use a highly porous Teflon material for our center ball. It is the same material that doctors use for hip replacements because it is sooo durable. The Quality of the material also makes it self lubricating. It is permeated with Lucas grease. It took us 2 years just to decide on the best grease to use. We pride ourselves on making the best and we also commend Steeda for coming out with ever better products that help us push ourselves to the limit of technology, Materials, and craftsmanship.
I would recommend a Steeda, a hurst, even a B&M, but not an MGW because they are cheap and will fall apart.
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I have 50,000 miles and 3 years on my MGW and it's still as good as new....and I slam the hell out of it. I've never had to retighten the handle or relube it or anything. I have yet to see anyone complain about their MGW's falling apart. Considering you work for Pro 5.0 your opinion is slightly biased. Having used both shifters they are both well made. I myself prefer the feel of the MGW but quality wise there is nothing wrong with the MGW.



By the way...off to talk this goes because opinions on shifter brands is not really tech.
 

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I always used to have this problem too, what you need to do is not "try" to put it in 3rd. If you push the shifter directly foward from 2nd, it will throw itself in 3rd. Best way to do it. Not sure if the stock shifter spring is tight enough to do that, but get yourself a pro5.0 or MGW and that should solve your problems.
 

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I've tried a lot of different shifting methods and i'm not lying when i say I've NEVER missed 3rd gear in 3 years with my MGW. I'm not saying it's the shifter specifically, but it does help. I used to miss 3rd a lot when i had the stock shifter when racing and that was solved when i went to the MGW.

Now when i cruise, i use a lot of different shift techniques. Sometimes i push it up to 3rd with 2 fingers, other times i punch it up to 3rd. My point is that i don't shift "conventionally" all the time, especially if i have a cell phone in my right hand or a drink or something.
 
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