shorty headers and sound....

nycstang37 · Jan 29, 2006

couldnt find anythign that explains this at all, but do shortys give any difference in sound like long tubes? do you get any of that tinny sound from shortys? i saw that bbk now makes a set for the gt and at a good price..
thanks

rog · Jan 29, 2006

Hi,

I have jba shorties and they sound good especially
when you get on it.No tinny sound but I realize it
is subjective.

Recently from LI,NY, otherwise we could get together

nycstang37 · Jan 29, 2006

thanks for the response, yea too bad your in az now, i mean you could always drive here, lol btw you got any sound clips?

rog · Jan 29, 2006

Hi,

Though I'm a rookie I believe how the headers will sound
will depend on the rest of your exhaust set up.There's so
many different combinations I don't know if you could ever
find clips of them all.And I think it's also much easier to find
clips of long tube headers than shorties.And from what I've
read long tubes make more noise than shorties

Lets see,if I leave tonight I should be there......

PDXStangDude · May 18, 2006

Revisiting this thread..

I saw the BBK shortie tuned/equal length headers and they are cost effective.

Has anyone purchased and tried these puppies on for size?

Link- http://www.rpmoutlet.com/05gtmachdr.htm

Couldn't find them on BBK site. Will try a 'search'.

Tmack · May 18, 2006

They look great and an extra 15hp sounds good, but I'd have a hard time not going with JBA.

JTGrant · May 18, 2006

Check sig for mods, I would get Long tubes, the setup I have sounds great. Except for the resonance at 2500, even the this setup with the stock mufflers sounds good. I would like to try the JBA axlebacks, but I'm not going to spend another 390.00 on axlebacks.

WSD42 · May 18, 2006

Will let you all know my experience in a few days. I have the Borla Catbacks on my '05 GT and will install the FRPP Shorty Headers in a few days.

jwgroovin · May 18, 2006

nycstang37 said:
couldnt find anythign that explains this at all, but do shortys give any difference in sound like long tubes? do you get any of that tinny sound from shortys? i saw that bbk now makes a set for the gt and at a good price..
thanks

Nothing tinny here...http://forums.stangnet.com/showthread.php?t=635941

nycstang37 · May 18, 2006

jwgroovins the perfect example for shortys, i think i may give the bbk's a shot b/c the price is right and hearing his clips they sound great too. how was the power gain by the way?

jwgroovin · May 18, 2006

nycstang37 said:
jwgroovins the perfect example for shortys, i think i may give the bbk's a shot b/c the price is right and hearing his clips they sound great too. how was the power gain by the way?

Dunno the real numbers yet but my seat of the pants tells me midrange is really up. I have a predator tuner and it turns out every shop around here is an sct tuner, so I need to save $379 for the xcal 2, + $300 for the dyno tune. I have a short clip of my son (20 yrs old, and a demon at the track) in the car, right after my video run, where he loses traction in second. Said the thing had a lot more grunt. I've got an outtake from the photo session--I'm mostly yelling at him, but when the car is coming back from the right (lots of wind noise and in the sun), listen carefully and you'll here the tires screetching in 2nd gear. That's with Goodyear Eagle F1 tires. They should be sticking like glue:

http://www.ballisticsoftware.com/images/sonsattempt.mov

nycstang37 · May 19, 2006

another great video, im still up in the air about shortys or LT's, bassani now makes logntubes for the 05-06, but you have to get their x pipe made for them, i was planning on buying their x-pipe first then in the future getting the LT's but they are 2 different x's, one for stock manifolds and 1 for the LT's. o decisions decisions, and money$$$$

jwgroovin · May 20, 2006

nycstang37 said:
another great video, im still up in the air about shortys or LT's, bassani now makes logntubes for the 05-06, but you have to get their x pipe made for them, i was planning on buying their x-pipe first then in the future getting the LT's but they are 2 different x's, one for stock manifolds and 1 for the LT's. o decisions decisions, and money$$$$

I tend to think in chunks of $500-$800 bucks (about the amount I can save up before the wife senses the money and...well, you know...). I can get 4.10 gears and pay for the install for about $500-$600, or a customer xcal tune (about $700 including the tuner) or two 18x10 wheels/drag radials for the rear for about $800. Maybe proven cams/tunes and revised intakes will show up some day, and I'll consider them as well. With what I have now though I'm in no hurry.

My '05 is mostly street fun, and comes out on clear afternoon/evenings or prowling around for cruise-ins or shows on weekends. I find no point in adding big bucks given how I use it. I've taken it to the track, where ironically, it was much faster bone stock, as the current tires are great on the street but can't hook up worth a damn at the track. But if I only go once a month is it worth dumping $800 on tires/wheels and $500 on gears, just to knock off a second and be a high 12s car? Well, my son thinks differently, obviously!

John

nycstang37 · May 20, 2006

i guess i could understand your son, im 20 also. but i see how you feel too, my car is not a drag car just a street car for fun. by the way are the bbk shorties equal length, b/c everywhere i see them they say "tuned length" but does that mean for best perfromance or is that just a marketing gimmick?

jwgroovin · May 20, 2006

nycstang37 said:
i guess i could understand your son, im 20 also. but i see how you feel too, my car is not a drag car just a street car for fun. by the way are the bbk shorties equal length, b/c everywhere i see them they say "tuned length" but does that mean for best perfromance or is that just a marketing gimmick?

You have a good eye! They are advertised as "tuned" (and what does that mean to the consumer???) but are not equal length. I think only JBA has true equal length shorties. Look at a picture and look how twisted they are...

John

nycstang37 · May 21, 2006

thanks john, thats what i figured, b/c i have seen some pics of the bbk and they kinda look twisted around but not really sure, the jba's really snake around in there, hard to believe they even fit under the hood.
thanks again

official_style · May 22, 2006

i think that shorties have proven to do almost nothing, like 2 hp. go with LTs or just stay with the stockers. im going LT in a few weeks,

nycstang37 · May 22, 2006

official_style said:
i think that shorties have proven to do almost nothing, like 2 hp. go with LTs or just stay with the stockers. im going LT in a few weeks,

thats cool, i was looking at bbk LT's and their catted x pipe also, seems like they are fairly priced among the others.

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