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should i got back to sd would it run right

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westridez

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i did a mass air conversion and im having nothin but problems know one can figure whats wrong with it. it keeps popping out the intake for the first 1/2 hour of driving if i punch it goes away then comes back sometimes it wont do it at all instead it will stall when i come to a stop ive tried a few things but it still running like a piece would car run fine with my mods below if it was sd again
 

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westridez said:
i did a mass air conversion and im having nothin but problems know one can figure whats wrong with it. it keeps popping out the intake for the first 1/2 hour of driving if i punch it goes away then comes back sometimes it wont do it at all instead it will stall when i come to a stop ive tried a few things but it still running like a piece would car run fine with my mods below if it was sd again
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IMO you made a bad choice swapping to begin with. Everybody likes to put SD down and they think Mass Air is the magic fix. You should have no issues with your old set-up. What made you decide to switch anyways?
 

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IMO you made a bad choice swapping to begin with. Everybody likes to put SD down and they think Mass Air is the magic fix. You should have no issues with your old set-up. What made you decide to switch anyways?
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everybody says it will run better mass air better on gas and sd wont work with any mods i had all the mass air parts for free out of parts car i got and it runs like ****
 

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Sounds like you have a faulty MAF.

Have you tried swapping it out for another?
 

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Dump the codes and see what the computer says is wrong. Then post the results & we will try to help you.

Here's the link to dump the computer codes with only a jumper wire or paper clip and the check engine light, or test light or voltmeter. I’ve used it for years, and it works great.

See http://www.troublecodes.net/Ford/
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See http://www.dalidesign.com/hbook/eectest.html for more descriptive help
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See http://www.mustangworks.com/articles/electronics/eec-iv_codes.html

IF your car is an 86-88 stang, you'll have to use the test lamp or voltmeter method. There is no functional check engine light on the 86-88's except possibly the Cali Mass Air cars.

Codes have different answers if the engine is running from the answers that it has when the engine isn't running. It helps a lot to know if you had the engine running when you ran the test.

Trouble codes are either 2 digit or 3 digit, there are no cars that use both 2 digit codes and 3 digit codes.

For those who are intimidated by all the wires & connections, see http://www.actron.com/product_detail.php?pid=16153 for what a typical hand scanner looks like. Normal retail price is about $30 or so at AutoZone or Walmart.

Or for a nicer scanner see http://www.midwayautosupply.com/detailedproductdescription.asp?3829 – It has a 3 digit LCD display so that you don’t have to count flashes or beeps.. Cost is $33.
 

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Sounds like you have a faulty MAF.

Have you tried swapping it out for another?
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i swapped the maf it dint do nothing
 

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i swapped the maf it dint do nothing
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Try to dump the codes like Jrichker says and see what it comes up with.

You will be much happier with the Mass Air setup when you get it runing correctly.
 
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everybody says it will run better mass air better on gas and sd wont work with any mods i had all the mass air parts for free out of parts car i got and it runs like ****
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Yep... you fell into the "Mass air is the only god" brain wash, jet stream.

Here's the kicker. Even if you DO get the problem ironed out... with your current mods, that conversion will have robbed you a few HP.
 

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well i converted it back to sd just to see how it would run and it would'nt idle it was smoking black boggin spitting and quiting so i hooked my mass air stuff back up and yesterday it ran better then it ever has only stalled a few times instead of every stop so im gonna hook up the vss and fuel pump signal to see if it cures the rest of the problem
 
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