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Stage 1 in preparing for my blower install already trouble! HELP

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Verlin

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Let me start by saying that I am in the process of installing a NOVI 1000 on my 93 GT. Today I installed a Trick Flow intake, 42lb injector, 90mm mass air, 70mm throttle body, adjustable fuel regulator and gauge. I also changed my head gaskets and lifters. Well I marked my distributor pulled it out Well when I got everything back together I started it up and it is having problems. It will stay running as long as I hold the gas a little, but it wont idle at all. It will immediatly die if I let off the gas?!* When I put the distributer back in I think it got moved. I cant check the timing cause the car wont idle. The intake also whistles at low rpm's? Vacuum leak? Would this cause it not to idle? What do I do about my timing? Is there some way to restab the distributor to get my timing to anywhere near where it needs to be? It runs fine when I rev it, it just wont idle and whistles! Too much injector or mass air maybe? HELP PLEASE!!!
 
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ok... my dad did this to me once when he pulled the distrubutor... from what ive been told to proplerly set the timing, remove the plugs an stab a screwdriver down in the number 1 cylinder an turn the motor over untill it reaches TDC... Then put the dizzy back in with the pointer pointing towards the number one cylinder!!! what a friend of mine did on mine was just have me start/kill the car while he kept takin a stab at getting it lined back up... ended up workin actually!!! and before i get flamed for that, i had to be somewhere in 20 mins. an that was his solution...
 
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WOW... if that neat trick works.... that would be a huge timesaver to keep in mind when it comes time for my turby...
 

PNY PWR

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turn the motor over untill it reaches TDC...
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On the compression stroke...very important!!
 

bmo37

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Verlin said:
Let me start by saying that I am in the process of installing a NOVI 1000 on my 93 GT. Today I installed a Trick Flow intake, 42lb injector, 90mm mass air, 70mm throttle body, adjustable fuel regulator and gauge. I also changed my head gaskets and lifters. Well I marked my distributor pulled it out Well when I got everything back together I started it up and it is having problems. It will stay running as long as I hold the gas a little, but it wont idle at all. It will immediatly die if I let off the gas?!* When I put the distributer back in I think it got moved. I cant check the timing cause the car wont idle. The intake also whistles at low rpm's? Vacuum leak? Would this cause it not to idle? What do I do about my timing? Is there some way to restab the distributor to get my timing to anywhere near where it needs to be? It runs fine when I rev it, it just wont idle and whistles! Too much injector or mass air maybe? HELP PLEASE!!!
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on a correctly timed car a vaccum leak will made the car idle more erradically, even sounding like it has a big cam (when it doesn't), but the power will be down as will the throttle response. sounds like your timing might be close but not quiiet there. try rotating the distributor clockwise or counterclowise prior to starting and see if it gets any better, if it does than you know what direction u have to go.

your only limit will be how far you can rotate the distributor past the intake and thermostat housing. so like already state you may have to start from scratch and reinstall the distributor all together.

on the compression stroke and the balancer at 0 degrees TDC on the pointer, drop the distributor in so the rotor points to the 1:00 position as on a clock. now the car's base timing should be around 10 degrees BTDC, so once its installed you can rotate it by eye a small bit (I think but can't remeber for sure counterclockwise so it comes close to that 10 BTDC)
 

Michael Yount

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"on the compression stroke and the balancer at 0 degrees TDC on the pointer, drop the distributor in so the rotor points to the 1:00 position as on a clock. now the car's base timing should be around 10 degrees BTDC, so once its installed you can rotate it by eye a small bit (I think but can't remeber for sure counterclockwise so it comes close to that 10 BTDC)"

I would alter this by saying when you drop the distributor in, do so in a way that the rotor is pointing as closely as possible to the plug on the distributor cap that has the number 1 cylinder wire attached to it. It may or may not be close to 1 o'clock. If you want to get the timing even closer on the stab, on the compression stroke rotate the engine so the timing pointer is pointing at 10 degrees before top dead center - then stab the dizzy so the rotor's pointing at the number 1 plug wire - that'll get you as close as you can be before you fire it.
 
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92GreenGT

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When I changed intake gaskets, that happened to me. Turns out the tube to the PCV valve was unplugged off the PCV vavle. I put it back on and it idled like a champ.

Dave
 
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