Here is something I need help in figuring out and I am hoping some of you can chime in and help me with this.
I took the Mustang for a 20 mile long ride mostly in town, no romping and when I turned it off the scenario below occurred:
- Shut off the Car and the CD player keeps trying to eject a CD.
Note that this is the Factory 460 Stereo and the CD or Radio was not turned on and hasn’t been turned on in a very long time, nor was there any CD's in any of the 6 slots.
- Turned key on to run position and turned on CD player, tried eject, nothing, switched to Radio and back to CD, then tried eject, nothing. It is still trying to eject a CD constantly by itself.
- Tried inserting a CD, the door was locked closed, tried pushing the Load button, then a number of which slot for the CD's, nothing. Kept doing the Load/Eject and number of slot, nothing.
Finally while pushing the Load/Eject and number of slot and while pushing a CD up against the CD door one went in. It played so another CD was inserted into slot 2, then slot 3. All seemed fine and the CD played in the run as well as the accessory key switch location without constantly trying to eject a CD.
Now for the bigger problem:
Next morning the Mach1 is attempted to start, insert the key and turn to the start position and nothing, assuming that the Radio/CD player is the culprit and the battery is dead, a charger is attached while the Radio/CD player is removed so it can be sent off to get checked.
Battery now fully charged to 13.48 volts and CD/Radio removed, hit the starter, nothing. Same as before so the assumption of a dead battery was not the case. Checked the battery volts and the reading is now 12.5.
Recharge battery to 13.52 volts (1), turn ignition key to the run position and turn off and check battery volts = 12.85 volts (2). Next without a recharge, turn key to the start position and then off and the battery now reads 12.52 volts (3). Now repeat (3) a few more times and the battery never goes below 12.5 volts.
Now some details of what is happening to the car during the next tests and observations:
1. Battery fully charged, turn key to the start position in an attempt to start, the instrument warning lights go dead then when released to the run position in 4-5 seconds the tachometer and speedometer makes a full sweep and the instrument warning lights come on as well as the dome light and are very dim, then sometimes the electric fan will come on at a very, very slow speed. Note that this does not occur each and every time but maybe 4 out 6 times.
2. When the key is in the ignition, in the off position, door open, the interior light is bright and the open door chime is ringing. Turn the key to the run position, chime stops and interior light goes out. Turn key to the start position and #1 takes place again.
3. The power windows does not work when key is in the run position.
4. A diagnostic tool will not get a reading, after it is plugged in and the key is turned to the on position, it signals an error.
5. The Ford on board Diagnostic tool does not work, as when holding the reset button and turning the key to the run position, all goes dead as before.
The fuses and relay in the Power Distribution Box underhood were checked, fuses, #3, 4, 5, and 6 for the Starter Motor Relay, Ignition Switch and PCM were all ok.
Also checked was the fuse box underdash for the Engines controls #2 & 8, Starter Motor Relay #6, Anti-theft #19 and the Engine Control Management #21 and all checked ok.
The fuel pump safety switch in the trunk was checked as well.
The Ground Wire was checked for corrosion and being tight.
The volts were checked to pin 30 at the Power Distribution Box for the Starter Relay and it reads exactly as the battery so no drop in volts there.
The volts were checked to the Starter Solenoid positive terminal and there was no drop there.
A Starter Motor Relay from another Mustang was installed and there was no change in conditions.
A jumper from the positive side of the battery to the S terminal on the solenoid was run and the Starter Solenoid did not engage. According to this information the conclusion would be that the Starter/Solenoid is bad and needs replacing.
Now, if the Starter/Solenoid is bad, what was the deal with the CD player and how could that play a part in this, if any?
Does anyone agree with the final analysis above or can someone shed some light on what might be my problem(s) here?
Thanks!
I took the Mustang for a 20 mile long ride mostly in town, no romping and when I turned it off the scenario below occurred:
- Shut off the Car and the CD player keeps trying to eject a CD.
Note that this is the Factory 460 Stereo and the CD or Radio was not turned on and hasn’t been turned on in a very long time, nor was there any CD's in any of the 6 slots.
- Turned key on to run position and turned on CD player, tried eject, nothing, switched to Radio and back to CD, then tried eject, nothing. It is still trying to eject a CD constantly by itself.
- Tried inserting a CD, the door was locked closed, tried pushing the Load button, then a number of which slot for the CD's, nothing. Kept doing the Load/Eject and number of slot, nothing.
Finally while pushing the Load/Eject and number of slot and while pushing a CD up against the CD door one went in. It played so another CD was inserted into slot 2, then slot 3. All seemed fine and the CD played in the run as well as the accessory key switch location without constantly trying to eject a CD.
Now for the bigger problem:
Next morning the Mach1 is attempted to start, insert the key and turn to the start position and nothing, assuming that the Radio/CD player is the culprit and the battery is dead, a charger is attached while the Radio/CD player is removed so it can be sent off to get checked.
Battery now fully charged to 13.48 volts and CD/Radio removed, hit the starter, nothing. Same as before so the assumption of a dead battery was not the case. Checked the battery volts and the reading is now 12.5.
Recharge battery to 13.52 volts (1), turn ignition key to the run position and turn off and check battery volts = 12.85 volts (2). Next without a recharge, turn key to the start position and then off and the battery now reads 12.52 volts (3). Now repeat (3) a few more times and the battery never goes below 12.5 volts.
Now some details of what is happening to the car during the next tests and observations:
1. Battery fully charged, turn key to the start position in an attempt to start, the instrument warning lights go dead then when released to the run position in 4-5 seconds the tachometer and speedometer makes a full sweep and the instrument warning lights come on as well as the dome light and are very dim, then sometimes the electric fan will come on at a very, very slow speed. Note that this does not occur each and every time but maybe 4 out 6 times.
2. When the key is in the ignition, in the off position, door open, the interior light is bright and the open door chime is ringing. Turn the key to the run position, chime stops and interior light goes out. Turn key to the start position and #1 takes place again.
3. The power windows does not work when key is in the run position.
4. A diagnostic tool will not get a reading, after it is plugged in and the key is turned to the on position, it signals an error.
5. The Ford on board Diagnostic tool does not work, as when holding the reset button and turning the key to the run position, all goes dead as before.
The fuses and relay in the Power Distribution Box underhood were checked, fuses, #3, 4, 5, and 6 for the Starter Motor Relay, Ignition Switch and PCM were all ok.
Also checked was the fuse box underdash for the Engines controls #2 & 8, Starter Motor Relay #6, Anti-theft #19 and the Engine Control Management #21 and all checked ok.
The fuel pump safety switch in the trunk was checked as well.
The Ground Wire was checked for corrosion and being tight.
The volts were checked to pin 30 at the Power Distribution Box for the Starter Relay and it reads exactly as the battery so no drop in volts there.
The volts were checked to the Starter Solenoid positive terminal and there was no drop there.
A Starter Motor Relay from another Mustang was installed and there was no change in conditions.
A jumper from the positive side of the battery to the S terminal on the solenoid was run and the Starter Solenoid did not engage. According to this information the conclusion would be that the Starter/Solenoid is bad and needs replacing.
Now, if the Starter/Solenoid is bad, what was the deal with the CD player and how could that play a part in this, if any?
Does anyone agree with the final analysis above or can someone shed some light on what might be my problem(s) here?
Thanks!