Stock Stang___H/C/I or Vortech ???

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This Q has been asked before and in the past, my first thoughts would have been NA

For some time now, I've been having different thoughts

I crunched some data Donavan (94-95 forum member HGFireHazard) was kind enough to send me of his recent pull

You can see the thread about the pull and detalils elsewhere in this fourm.

I think the little comparo chart of Donavan & Yours Truly I threw together gives some insight to the Q here

Grady

 

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Well looks like I need to get a Vortech.

 

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vortech with some gt40's. no need to spend the big bucks to split the block better.

 

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bimmertech said:

vortech with some gt40's. no need to spend the big bucks to split the block better.

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Sooooooooooo Ben

Do you think this kinda helps to show the big picture we have been talking about recently?

I relate to a chart or hard data of some kind much better myself

I agree about not having to spend or do a whole lot about uping the flow enough to make a very impressive street combo

Grady

 

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the torque curve is the deal breaker.

that translates to happy times for me.

sure a kb can do better, but ohhhh the heat.

just curious if JR has a dyno chart of his turbo. pretty sure he has a stock gt longblock.

 

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bimmertech said:

just curious if JR has a dyno chart of his turbo. pretty sure he has a stock gt longblock.

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i bet it would romp them all

 

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bimmertech said:

the torque curve is the deal breaker.

that translates to happy times for me.

sure a kb can do better, but ohhhh the heat.

just curious if JR has a dyno chart of his turbo. pretty sure he has a stock gt longblock.

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Torque does look good don't it

I was gonna include a kb combo I got some data on
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It had AFR's, FTI cam, Edel intake

Not really all that fair to include that combo as its not an apples to apples comparison to Donavan's combo

I guess we could look at JR's pull as well IF we can get the numerical values from it

Grady

 

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final5-0 said:

Torque does look good don't it

I was gonna include a kb combo I got some data on
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It had AFR's, FTI cam, Edel intake

Not really all that fair to include that combo as its not an apples to apples comparison to Donavan's combo

I guess we could look at JR's pull as well IF we can get the numerical values from it

Grady

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i wish i had a dyno to share because i have jr's old k/b and a stock longblock (but the e7 heads are ported) and a stock cam.

bimmertech, believe me i know what you mean about the heat ... i have logged act temps in the 230s after a 1/2 hour of normal driving. i really need to finish my water injection project.

i think this summer i will have my act together enough to do some dyno runs.

 

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BlackVert said:

i have logged act temps in the 230s after a 1/2 hour of normal driving.

i think this summer i will have my act together enough to do some dyno runs.

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Chris made a punny funny

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hehe ... i didn't notice that!

- chris

 

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I fixed your name

When I saw your email notify hit my pc

I said to myself

His name is Chris

Sorry bout that

Grady

 

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I think anyone wanting to go with boost should at the least pickup some GT-40 irons just for the sake of having a more stout head. I'm so done with the H/C/I stuff I can't wait to get some boost goin in the next couple years.

 

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bimmertech said:

vortech with some gt40's. no need to spend the big bucks to split the block better.

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i agree! i was gonna slap a turbo on w/ my stock h/c/i, but my gf's bro-in-law is giving me the gt40 stuff--it's gonna make anything even better.

 

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Get the Vortech first. If you still want more, add a intake or add it when you do the vortech and change injectors. When you blow gaskets then replace the heads but I would leave the cam alone. Just my 2 cent.

 

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i have always wondered what my car would run like without the blower?? i did everything all at once.

 

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The hp difference would not be as great in the comparo for other similar combos due to they have upgraded tb, maf, catback, and usually don't run a catted mid pipe.

But still

Even though they might get closer or match the hp curve

They ain't gonna match Donavan's tq curve

I got a Q here!

If there was a bit of belt slip as some members suspect, I am thinking it would be hurting the most at say mid to redline rpm.

All you Vortech guys ... Would you agree?

Grady

 

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final5-0 said:

I got a Q here!
If there was a bit of belt slip as some members suspect, I am thinking it would be hurting the most at say mid to redline rpm.
All you Vortech guys ... Would you agree?
Grady

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Yes, I would agree w/ that statement, probably mostly in the upper rpm's.