True- so true. I agree they put out some crap BUT, there is no way, NO WAY, anyone can tell me that an import is nicer than domestics. "CASE IN POINT" My soon to be wife back then wanted a new car. So we went shopping. She thought she might like a toyota or nissanTHE COBRAMAN said:You mean, had the big 3 stayed true to the car-buying public, don't you? We got tired of buying junk at ever-escalating prices. The Japanese car lines gave the people what they wanted, better build quality at a better price. The quality of today's "domestic" makes is a direct result of having to play catch-up 20 years ago. I'm not a Honda fan, but if you work with late-model cars everyday, you come to appreciate the differences between Hondas and Toyotas and Gm/Ford/Daimler-Chrysler built cars. I'll probably never buy one for myself, because I like the feel of domestic iron, but the difference is there, and it's a tradeoff I'm willing to accept because of personal taste.
BTW, the GTO is based on an "import" from Oz.
itsaMustangtoo said:SO HERE IS MY CHALLENGE TO ALL WHO STICK UP FOR THE ImPORTS( i hope i don't regret this) SCOUR THE CAR SHOWS-SEND THE PICS- I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A NICELY RESTORED DATSUN B-210. EARLY SEVENTIES I BELIEVE
THE COBRAMAN said:You mean, had the big 3 stayed true to the car-buying public, don't you?
The Japanese car lines gave the people what they wanted, better build quality at a better price. The quality of today's "domestic" makes is a direct result of having to play catch-up 20 years ago.
BTW, the GTO is based on an "import" from Oz.
Sure,I have heard of the 240/280 Z. Didn't they used to put 350 chevy motors in em to go fast ??Wart said:That reminds me of people busting my nuts over the II.
ANd, I guess you never heard of the 240Z.? Pretty good following there.
itsaMustangtoo said:SO HERE IS MY CHALLENGE TO ALL WHO STICK UP FOR THE ImPORTS( i hope i don't regret this) SCOUR THE CAR SHOWS-SEND THE PICS- I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A NICELY RESTORED DATSUN B-210. EARLY SEVENTIES I BELIEVE
Wart said:
Golly, car kept blowing up ...
Had to be the weight of the car .....
Every heavy car that has ever been 'raced' has always grenaded, had to be the weight.
Yes Sir, Couldn't be the loose nut behind the wheel.
Nope ...
Mustangj said:You can make a heavy car go quick, but it is easier and cheaper to make a lite car go quick!
Datsun 510's have a good following too. I've seen some real nices ones around town.Wart said:That reminds me of people busting my nuts over the II.
ANd, I guess you never heard of the 240Z.? Pretty good following there.
itsaMustangtoo said:Watch out for inferior ( cheap ) intakes from Japan. Where R&D stands for recieve and duplicate. It is nothing short of a fraud.!!!!!!!
Japs,china,hong kong,vietnam.Who cares where it comes from? Let's just say Asia ?? But it sounds like you are all in favor of it.!!!!!!!Vince said:Give me a break. First of all, North American automakers have been playing catch-up to Japan for a few decades now. Second, hardly anything is made in Japan anymore. Too expensive. Try China (the farther north the cheaper) or India. The company I work for has first-hand experience of their designs being knocked off & sold by Chinese companies. And yes, the quality is crap...for now. But you can be sure that as they graduate more engineers and invest in technology that places like China & India will be leading not following.
The green one looks real nice ( do you think that is enough radiator?) Where would you ever find parts?Vince said:Datsun 510's have a good following too. I've seen some real nices ones around town.
THE COBRAMAN said:
Not really my cup of tea, but then folks say that about IIs as well....[/QUOTE I assume these will be going on the Barrett/ Jackson auction soon?? I asked for nicely,the paint on the red one looks awful fuzzy. Wetsand & buff anyone?
I never said I was in favor of it. But it's reality. Putting up walls and sticking to our old ways isn't going to help in the long run. We need to stay ahead of them, design & build better products, and take advantage of the opportunity. With over 1 billion people in China that's a huge market to sell to.itsaMustangtoo said:Japs,china,hong kong,vietnam.Who cares where it comes from? Let's just say Asia ?? But it sounds like you are all in favor of it.!!!!!!!Which is silly, after you explain you have first hand experienceof your companies designs being ripped off. This pisses me off. I wish I could Take your companies product, copy it, sell it @ a profit ( no R&D involved) make some design improvements and BUY your company!!!!!!!!!!!
itsaMustangtoo said:The green one looks real nice ( do you think that is enough radiator?) Where would you ever find parts?
Vince said:I never said I was in favor of it. But it's reality. Putting up walls and sticking to our old ways isn't going to help in the long run. We need to stay ahead of them, design & build better products, and take advantage of the opportunity. With over 1 billion people in China that's a huge market to sell to.
NOoooooooo!!But now we're getting off topic.
As for the rice mobiles, I hate seeing those cheesy aluminum wings and big fart cans. But I've seen some tastefully done cars, and there's some fast ones out there, so I don't lump them all in the same category.
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