Blue Thunder said:If you really want a sleeper, get a diesel Super Duty pickup and add a few things, like a larger turbo, exhaust, chip and full-time propane injection.
Maxime said:I drive a stock looking 2000 Civic SiR. It's a great daily driver and it's a nice sleeper too.
dmoody said:Muscle cars of the 60's were lightweight especially when you compare them to many of the other models being produced at the time (Galaxies, Fairlanes, Thunderbirds, etc).
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joeythesaint said:Dude, 13.6 in a sportscar is not a sleeper.
Power Surge said:Yep, the 6.0 Powerstrokes rock. My 05 E350 van runs 13.9s with just a tune, and nothing else.
Wart said:Most definately can be.
A Sleeper is nothing but a vehicle whose looks doesn't let on to it's go like hell ability.
Like I said in this or another thread, get the 'go fast from the factory beast' and remove all badges and graphics that mark it as that models go fast ride. It's now a sleeper. Now upgrade the go fast abilities without making it aparent without looking in or under the car and you have more of a sleeper.
Except for exhaust note and tire width you can't tell a successful sleeper without 1) Racing or 2) inspecting.
Just trying to get everyone on the same page.
Eos said:I find it hilarious when ricers think my car weighs like 4,000lbs sight unseen because its a mustang. And they think mustangs are heavy? lol Actually mustangs were always the lighter of the v8 muscle cars werent they? Even the newer ones are lighter then their competitors.
Eos said:Wow that thing is scarey hehe
Blue Thunder said:NASCAR outlawed the Ford 302 block, also.
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