Well, it's only been 4 months since I've spent any $$$ on the '70, so I've decided it's time to step up my game. All I really have left to do on the car is the engine and the paint (interior, stereo, wheels/tires are finally done). So...instead of a total rebuild for $10,000 all at once, I thought I could tide myself over with a Paxton that would be compatible with this engine (351W)and swap over when I have it rebuilt. What's the least expensive way to go about putting on a NOVI 1200 OR 1500 and a demon carb??? Thanks for any help. If anybody knows how I could keep it under $3000, I would be very impressed. Thanks for any advice!!
supercharger ideas??
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projectstang said:
I bought brackets for a fox body on ebay ($50) for my Vortech. The brackets bolt to the heads and not the water pump so will bolt to a 351W. I have 4 superchargers, and 2 complete kits I pieced together for under $1000 each on ebay.
Well, you can buy a complete kit with everyhting you need from Paxton to mount on either side(driver or passenger) for a little over $3,000.
http://www.paxtonauto.com/systems.asp?Action=GetPart&Part=1001844
http://www.paxtonauto.com/systems.asp?Action=GetPart&Part=1001844
I haven't installed my kit yet, I was going to throw it together but got some info that slowed me down. I bought the brackets, headunit, carb hat, and fuel pump seaparately. The head unit came with the pulleys, pipes, oil lines, bypass valve. I picked up the headnit and included items for about $500. The brackets were $50, fuel pump was a reman holley blue for $40, carb hat was $200, but I picked up two thers for $30 each. The fuel pump regulator I bought new but they go cheaper used on ebay, it was almost $200, it has a vacuum port that givea a 1:1 fuel pressure to boost inclease. I still need to build my carb. I got this from MDJay:
http://www.hangar18fabrication.com/blowthru.html
I have a Paxton Cobra kit that doesn't need the carb built quite as far but want to go with a blow through for tunability.
http://www.hangar18fabrication.com/blowthru.html
I have a Paxton Cobra kit that doesn't need the carb built quite as far but want to go with a blow through for tunability.
That's a great write up. That's Andrew who frequents the turbo site a bunch of us go to. Unfortunetly your holley blue is more than likely not going to come close for a fuel pump. If you still have your ecentric, run a manual.Then you don't need an expensive regulator.The only thing I can think of that would make any blo thru carbs different is if you run a box. You wouldn't need seal the throttle shafts, but nobdy really does it for a hat either.
10secgoal said:
With the regulator it should be fine. The regulator I have has a pressure fitting that "up"s the fuel pressure 1:1 per lb of boost.
The mechanical supercharger fuel pump works the same way. It has a diaphram and pressure fitting that keeps the fuel pressurized equal to boost+normal fuel pressure.
iskwezm
10 Year Member
you should really think about another pump,you have the 7 psi the carb need, + the 7-9 psi for the boost,the Holley blue cannot supply 14-18 psi when its under full boost,I lost a engine due to the bluelatamud said:
I now have a billet pump capable of free flowing 22 psi and 140 GPH
iskwezm
10 Year Member
My carb was set up for the blower,but it has a channel milled into the base with a fitting for boost to be applied so the gas doesnt get pushed out the shafts10secgoal said:
iskwezm
10 Year Member
Call Paradise Wheels,in San Marcos, Ca,they have new SN kits for $2000 complete and if you want the "Shelby" enclosure its $2500jbuening said:Will any old head unit work or are there ones to look out for that don't? Is there a way to tell if one is worn out, like you can tell on a turbo?? Never thought about piecing one together.
A67StangMaster
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Hey i was wondering if they Sell a kit for a 351c I have looked all over and still cant find one.........Someone plz help:SNSign:
iskwezm said:you should really think about another pump,you have the 7 psi the carb need, + the 7-9 psi for the boost,the Holley blue cannot supply 14-18 psi when its under full boost,I lost a engine due to the blue
I now have a billet pump capable of free flowing 22 psi and 140 GPH
Hey thanks for the tip. I want to keep it electric. I have a former EFI 351w and the timing cover is sealed and there is no eccentric. Maybe I'll look into a Barry Grant or Air Flow?? Any suggestions. I hear the BGs are quiet compared to the Holley Blue too.
iskwezm
10 Year Member
I have Summit pump and it does ok,but if i was going to do it again, i would get a Magnaflow or Aeromotive pump.latamud said:
and yes the Holley Blue's do make a "lil" noise
I have all Aeromotive stuff for my Procharged D1-X. Nice.
A67STANGMASTER, You'll need to custom fabricate your brackets for a 351C. It's really not as bad as it sounds. Start with a BB Chevy kit, get a 5.0 Mustang Renegade 8 rib crank pulley, a 5.0 belt tensioner and you'll figure it out.
I did the same for a 460 and did a serpentine belt, a/c, ps and alt.
A67STANGMASTER, You'll need to custom fabricate your brackets for a 351C. It's really not as bad as it sounds. Start with a BB Chevy kit, get a 5.0 Mustang Renegade 8 rib crank pulley, a 5.0 belt tensioner and you'll figure it out.
I did the same for a 460 and did a serpentine belt, a/c, ps and alt.Yeah it does. I ended up with a holley efi pump. The thing is dead quite. And by the flow it should be good to 632 hp. We'll see. Right now it leans out on boost, but I have airbleeds and stuff to modify. The fuel pressure goes up as the boost does so the pump seems to be keeping up. If I can get it tuned I will let everyone know it works. i love TM.com but sometimes they tell you to buy the largest pump for 300 bux when you don't need it. So I'm on my own with this one. I got this one for 20 bux, so I gotta try it.iskwezm said:and yes the Holley Blue's do make a "lil" noise
