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General karthief

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Food for thought from someone who really knows very little about coilovers and the street.
When you put together something, an engine, suspension, brakes or kitchen cabinets, it has to work together, lcas from one manufacturer, coilovers from somewhere else, camber plates from a third likely will not play nice together, or maybe they will but if you have a choice to buy a setup in kit form it is designed to play nice.
Just thinking out loud.
 

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karthief said:
Food for thought from someone who really knows very little about coilovers and the street.
When you put together something, an engine, suspension, brakes or kitchen cabinets, it has to work together, lcas from one manufacturer, coilovers from somewhere else, camber plates from a third likely will not play nice together, or maybe they will but if you have a choice to buy a setup in kit form it is designed to play nice.
Just thinking out loud.
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Not entirely true . Caster camber plates are caster camber plates , heim joint control arms are still just heim joints no matter who's name is on them .

Now shocks, struts and spring rates for a specific purpose then yes I agree you need some kind of match up to make it optimal for its purpose .

Or be like me and have regular lowering springs up front and drag springs out back . Lol
 

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karthief said:
Food for thought from someone who really knows very little about coilovers and the street.
When you put together something, an engine, suspension, brakes or kitchen cabinets, it has to work together, lcas from one manufacturer, coilovers from somewhere else, camber plates from a third likely will not play nice together, or maybe they will but if you have a choice to buy a setup in kit form it is designed to play nice.
Just thinking out loud.
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Well that's how this whole thread started, with a complete kit minus the camber plates, then opinions were given and some spurred my curiosity, adjustable struts and shocks seemed like a good thing but then I read some negative stuff about Strange struts rattling around due to a narrower shaft, there were more than one who said they were using the Strange struts and I wondered if they have an issue? When I can I like to keep it all the same manufacturer, hence the Trickflow top end kit installed this past summer, but in the end I would like the best possible ride with a lowered spring.
 

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Ok, so I'm not entirely right. Or wrong either. That makes me feel better, I think, or maybe not, I guess as long as I don't drag my rear springs I guess I'm ok, maybe.
 
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karthief said:
Ok, so I'm not entirely right. Or wrong either. That makes me feel better, I think, or maybe not, I guess as long as I don't drag my rear springs I guess I'm ok, maybe.
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It is human nature I guess, when presented with too many options there is no correct decision, aaahhhhh. Maybe I'll cut a half coil off the friggin stock springs and be done with it .hahaha
 
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So many thing come into play when it comes to ride quality, tire side wall height can play big part in making a stiff suspension more comfortable.
 
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Caster camber plates are pretty much like stock just have more adjustability, probably needed when lowering. Don't know anything about coilovers, different rates will be important to ride quality, better handling will be stiffer ride, can't have it all.
 

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Ya, ya can't have it all, my car is set up for street driving, I have to be able to maneuver traffic, take bumps, aprons entering parking lots, speed bumps and the like without having to slow to a crawl, stock height, good shocks and bigger sway bars along with tires that are wider than stock allows me make fools out of many 'sports' cars and people that 'think' they can drive.
 
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Lowering a Fox an inch or two is not really an issue on mine, my stock height Camaro is worse when it comes to rubbing.
Yeah there is a lot of those 'sport' car drivers around, seen too many youtube videos of them.
 

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Jersey Joe said:
It is human nature I guess, when presented with too many options there is no correct decision, aaahhhhh. Maybe I'll cut a half coil off the friggin stock springs and be done with it .hahaha
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Take your time, get some more input from guys with coilovers, to much work and money to jump in to something. Is car just for street or ya gonna go to track sometimes, do you need the stiffer ride for better handling? Mine was to be my track day car but I like it so much I drive it to work most of the summer, long ride but mostly highway. Got a new toy for track but I still like to fool around with it.
View: https://youtu.be/ldrDFD59NQU
 
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Take your time, get some more input from guys with coilovers, to much work and money to jump in to something. Is car just for street or ya gonna go to track sometimes, do you need the stiffer ride for better handling? Mine was to be my track day car but I like it so much I drive it to work most of the summer, long ride but mostly highway. Got a new toy for track but I still like to fool around with it.
View: https://youtu.be/ldrDFD59NQU
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I have no experience on the roadcourse, but that is the scariest looking roadcourse I have ever seen. Good job driving that thing!

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Mine don't rattle. Except if there is a major pot hole or something of that nature, I hear a slight noice. MM CC plates,coilovers,and their installation kit for the strange struts. Best combo I've ever ran and am very happy.
 
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88LXSleeper said:
Take your time, get some more input from guys with coilovers, to much work and money to jump in to something. Is car just for street or ya gonna go to track sometimes, do you need the stiffer ride for better handling? Mine was to be my track day car but I like it so much I drive it to work most of the summer, long ride but mostly highway. Got a new toy for track but I still like to fool around with it.
View: https://youtu.be/ldrDFD59NQU
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It's just a street car, will never be auto crossed or be a drag car. I just wanna lower it some and not have my teeth rattle around in my mouth, Looking for that magical combination where it gets lower but still achieve the best possible ride all for under 1,000 bucks.
 

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Jersey Joe said:
It's just a street car, will never be auto crossed or be a drag car. I just wanna lower it some and not have my teeth rattle around in my mouth, Looking for that magical combination where it gets lower but still achieve the best possible ride all for under 1,000 bucks.
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I went through the exact same predicament when choosing springs and struts. Too many damn options. I ended up giving maximum motorsports a call since I don't know anything about spring/damper rate matching and they suggested a koni str.t strut with h&r supersports with their CC plates for my daily driven fox that will never see an autocross. This setup is just under $900 if you pay full price. That being said this setup is awesome! It's hardly a worse ride than stock and its probably even smoother than stock at speed. It handles like a go kart (compared to the stock suspension) and I got about a 1.5 in drop in the front and 1 in in the back after everything settled. I would recommend
 
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mikestang63 said:
tokico bues
steeda springs

been running this combo for 20 years in several cars
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x 1000. I did this last summer. MM CC plates, Stock front control arm replacement. MM full length connectors, MM heavy duty lowers and FRPP uppers with rubber bushings. Got some traction back, not too stiff, and handles much better. I'll post some pictures so you can see the stance, lowered nicely but not slammed.
 
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So after much consideration and combing through the internet........I'm no closer to making a decision, but I think I have narrowed it down a bit. I'm leaning towards the Eibach pro's, Steeda or H &R sports for springs and either the Tokico blues, Koni orange or the Strange 10 ways for struts and shocks. I am concerned with some saying the 10 ways can rattle with certain CC plates so I may rule them out. I'll do a little more research and then i gotta make a decision to get it all completed for spring.
 
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Eibach Pro kit, tokiko shocks/struts. 5 lug, 4 wheel disc conversion. Ride height is perfect for me. Never bottoms out, handles great.

 

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If you go with the H&R's, I'd be curious to see the results. I have the tok blues and am looking for a new spring setup. I should really go coil overs...but not yet...
 
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