ERIC LAFERRIERE said:Here's a quik question for ya......Wayne do you know how the 'Tasca" mustang
day race got started
Yes
No thoughts on S/S class rules ?
ERIC LAFERRIERE said:Here's a quik question for ya......Wayne do you know how the 'Tasca" mustang
day race got started
DoubleONegative said:I never said that. The fastest N/A 4v that i know of was Bob Cosbys 99 Cobra.
Low 11s at 118ish in factory stock is moving!!!! Hence why he was the champ until he sold his 99
Is Modmotor heads up or bracket??? If it's bracket then who cares because ET means **** in bracket, consistancy is what counts there
Wayne S said:Yes
No thoughts on S/S class rules ?
Wayne S said:For 2006 the rules are getting re writen for factory stock.........
the proposed rules are for getting 14/13 sec typical bolt-on street cars the chance to race and have fun running a heads up class off a protree (John force style).
and pin them against other street cars,not a purpose built drag car.....
The worry is there is not enough people out there with TRUE bolt-on cars that will run the class........It seams the talk is Modular guys don't like Heads up racing and 5.0 street guys will not run since people seam to think all 5.0s run 165 radials up front.............
Here are the proposed rules--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Factory Stock
5.0, 4.6, 4.0, 3.8 (No Modular 4valves )
Vehicles must be street legal(registered) and able to pass state safety inspection.
A/C must be in. ( if you happen to have a AC delete coupe move up in class)
Drag radials only no cheater slicks. Front 205/15 min, Rear 275/15 Max
Minimum weight 3250 lbs/ Modular 2V and 5.0 COBRA 3400Lbs.
/ Modular 3v 3500Lbs.
Allowed modifications (Bolt-ons)
CAI,After cat exhaust, Mid pipe,Underdrive pullies,Shifter,
Gears,Throttle body,Intake,Mass Air meter,
AL driveshaft, Stock replacement rear control arms,
Timing pointer,Chip
Long block must be all original.
Car must have full interior including rear seat
" Tech reserves the right to DQ a car if it feels that an unfair advantage has been gained by a competitor"
Please post your thoughts on the rules-And would like to get a feel for if people would be interested in this class/rules for tasca day 06.
ERIC LAFERRIERE said:All I can say is whoever is going to come up with some type of format for such a raceday should always keep this in mind "IT's ALL FOR FUN".. Keep the rules VERY simple (VISUAL INSPECTION ONLY) and limit the amount of classes....The track HATES several classes with low car counts ..So one piece of advice, keep it simple and they will come. If they don't come to support what they all say they love then they are just a bunch of keybourd bench racers who should say nothing at all..........ERIC
Wayne S said:For 2006 the rules are getting re writen for factory stock.........Minimum weight 3250 lbs/ Modular 2V and 5.0 COBRA 3400Lbs.
/ Modular 3v 3500Lbs.
Allowed modifications (Bolt-ons)
CAI,After cat exhaust, Mid pipe,Underdrive pullies,Shifter,
Gears,Throttle body,Intake,Mass Air meter,
AL driveshaft, Stock replacement rear control arms,
Timing pointer,Chip.
Wayne S said:Car must have full interior including rear seat
" Tech reserves the right to DQ a car if it feels that an unfair advantage has been gained by a competitor"
Please post your thoughts on the rules-And would like to get a feel for if people would be interested in this class/rules for tasca day 06.
Don't get what your trying to say here, Are you just venting?Superskwrl said:The proposed rules are un-realistic, over the 5+yrs i have been into mustangs, car counts @ the local races have been certainly not been growing, and certainly wont grow when you eliminate cars with rules.
I'd love to know how many guys like the rules and will participate in such a class. IMO those cars eliminate more cars than they include, what about the V6 guys?
I raced a few time @ the mhra when it was @ NED, and EVERYTIME i got mowed down in the 2nd round, but i still had FUN, did i say why am i one of 2 cars that are not trailered here in the "steet" class, no, did i propose rules that were favorable to me?
I suggest looking into bracket racing, i believe you can run a pro-tree in bracket's. Since bracket racing is the best was to keep things equal, if there are no sand baggers, you'll have a great time. And wont even have to put weight in your "stock" car
Soooo so far I have not heard one complaint from a person with a 5.0 Who said there 14/13sec car would not fit the rules because they drive around the streets with front tires under the size of 205s......I have not heard one modular guy say he does not like heads up style racingME said:For 2006 the rules are getting re writen for factory stock.........
the proposed rules are for getting 14/13 sec typical bolt-on street cars the chance to race and have fun running a heads up class off a protree (John force style).
and pin them against other street cars,not a purpose built drag car.....
The worry is there is not enough people out there with TRUE bolt-on cars that will run the class........It seams the talk is Modular guys don't like Heads up racing and 5.0 street guys will not run since people seam to think all 5.0s run 165 radials up front.............
Race weight is in the rules. Race weight includes driver..Most 2V stangs are at least a tad over 3250stock..Mine with out the spare tire and 1/4 tank of gas was 3390.Superskwrl said:how can a 2v weight 3250, dont they weigh 3500+ off the showroom floor??
Well A few of us have put our heads together and tride to figure an easy weight for cars to get at even with a little weight out. My car at 3012 race weight has gone 12.85 at 108mph with 275 nittos stock 3.27 gears.. I would concider a light car an unfair advantage against most heavy street cars... For instance say a 3500Lbs car had 260Whp..Superskwrl said:would removing as much hidden weigh as possible be an unfair advantage?, since the average stock mustang guy proably add weight via a large stereo?
Soooo so far I have not heard one complaint from a person with a 5.0 Who said there 14/13sec car would not fit the rules because they drive around the streets with front tires under the size of 205s......I have not heard one modular guy say he does not like heads up style racing
mricci said:I dotn think the rules are bad, i just dont think many mustangs that people want to race will fit these rules. I know mine and my friends definitely wont. Whats the one of the first things people do, at least around here an intake, and rear control arms are high up on that list. Thats just one example, that wont fit these rules.
Superskwrl said:Based on this past taca day what percentage of cars would fit with the new rules?
They went the wronge way with Street stang and gave into racers......What was the biggest thing that was the down fall of Street stang was racers who were busting balls about trying to make the class a 12secand car class......Going to a index was the worst thing they could of done with that class......As luck would have it they put a index of 12.5.....Now Racers mind you who did not have a true bolt-on street stang wanted it to be a 12.0Index..Now how many street stangs do you see on the streets or at car cruises are capable of running 12.0? or even 12.5 for that matter..stroked86 said:that could be because nobodys car with a 5.0 fits the rules anymore..... to me some of the proposed rules are straight out stupid for a class like this streetstang was like this in funford and got nobody....
Wayne S said:Im willing to bet at least 30% of cars that were running no box bracket class would fit this class....With at least 50% of mod motor that would fit this class.. The class would also have a great turn out if people in the stands knew about this class and/or got the nuggies to run the class.....
What street class? You meen factory stock in 05? There was a few 14/13 cars running in stk and Factory stock..Im pretty sure they would fit in the rules...Superskwrl said:I should have been more clear, what percentage of the cars that raced in the 05 tasca street class would fit into the 06 proposed rule change?