Tb Cleaner Disaster

1990LXstang · Apr 18, 2005

Hey guys, yesterday I bought some trottle body cleaner and cleaned out the TB. I did not take the TB off, I just opened the butterfly and cleaned both sides of it. I also took the MAF off and cleaned that as well. When I re-installed the CAI back on the TB the car will not idle at all. The thing is running ridiculously rough. It will not stay on at all unless I give it some gas. It actualy will not even go into the higher rpms. WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED? I checked to see if I pulled of a sensor or vacum hose but they are all in place. There is also smoke coming from the tail pipes. Can someone please tell me what the hell happend and how do I get my car idling better?

Paul Perreca · Apr 18, 2005

maybe the IAC was hit in the process or just disrupted somehow, like leaning on it or a tool, and it is not functioning - i know that the car will not idle and will not stay running if the IAC is F**ed up, my car's IAC is messed up, and it doesnt stay running, but eventually it smooths out - good luck
Paul Perreca

95GTAODE · Apr 18, 2005

Please don't say you cleaned the MAF with TB or Carb cleaner!

I'm willing to bet that's where the problem is.

cardudeusa · Apr 18, 2005

95GTAODE said:
Please don't say you cleaned the MAF with TB or Carb cleaner!

I'm willing to bet that's where the problem is.

I was thinking the same thing.

crunchie12268 · Apr 18, 2005

yeah, it is definetly something with your MAF. That is why it will not rev up and it is probably running rich. I have two stock mass airflow sensors if you need one you can PM me.

Stang8URMPRT · Apr 18, 2005

If you used high pressure t/b cleaner on your MAF, it probably broke the element. Time for a new MAF

1990LXstang · Apr 18, 2005

Oh know! I did clean the MAF with TB cleaner..... Do you guys think that I messed it up? I mean the car is going nutz its pinging and running so bad that it wont even REV..... it was running perfect before I cleaned it out..... should I buy a new MAF?

DMAN302 · Apr 18, 2005

Once cleaned my TB and IAC with cleaner exactly as you did..it never idled properly again for 2 months..better check your maf for damage

1990LXstang · Apr 18, 2005

Just bought a Pro-M 75mm. Solved my problem completley. Can't believe I wrecked the other one with a little bit of TB cleaner...... crazy.... well thanks for al the help guys.... Looking on the bright side, I got to put another upgrade on the car.

DMAN302 · Apr 18, 2005

Good catch..thanks for filling us in.

tunedin302 · Apr 18, 2005

1990LXstang said:
Just bought a Pro-M 75mm. Solved my problem completley. Can't believe I wrecked the other one with a little bit of TB cleaner...... crazy.... well thanks for al the help guys.... Looking on the bright side, I got to put another upgrade on the car.

Wow ... you bought a Pro-M and had it on your car in less than 4 hours? That's pretty impressive since you also have to find the right calibration. Good job.

Insane3D · Apr 18, 2005

Thebest way to clean MAF wires is gently with some q-tips and rubbing alcohol, or a similar gentle cleaner.

Shakerhood · Apr 18, 2005

Actually there is a note on the throttle body that tells you not to spray any cleaner in it. If I remember right there is a factory coating that you will remove if you sprayed it.

Insane3D · Apr 18, 2005

Shakerhood said:
Actually there is a note on the throttle body that tells you not to spray any cleaner in it. If I remember right there is a factory coating that you will remove if you sprayed it.

If you buy the correct cleaner, it's ok. I bought some Prestone "Air Intake Cleaner" that is labeled as sensor/fuel injection safe as well as specifically mentioning not harming the Teflon coating inside throttle bodies. It's basically a FI safe carb and choke cleaner..

Stang8URMPRT · Apr 19, 2005

You shouldn't use T/B cleaner on anything lol.... We only use Carb and Choke cleaner at work (Ford) on t/b services because t/b cleaner can damage stuff.

vristang · Apr 19, 2005

Insane3D said:
Thebest way to clean MAF wires is gently with some q-tips and rubbing alcohol, or a similar gentle cleaner.

I think I was told by C&L not to ever touch the wires and to only spray the wires with non ammonia window cleaner. I think they recommended Windex.

Do I remember this right?

As an aside it sounded like the TB cleaner was sprayed while the motor was shut down. Isn't it supposed to be running?

Insane3D · Apr 19, 2005

vristang said:
I think I was told by C&L not to ever touch the wires and to only spray the wires with non ammonia window cleaner. I think they recommended Windex.

Do I remember this right?

As an aside it sounded like the TB cleaner was sprayed while the motor was shut down. Isn't it supposed to be running?

Non-Ammonia window cleaner is alcohol based. It doesn't get much gentler than alcohol, and the q-tips work way better because the wires usually need some sort of rubbing to get the crap off, unless you want to spray loads and loads on it. A q-tip cotton tip can't possibly damage the wires unless you use a lot of force or something and snap them.

The wires themselves are actually quite rigid...

vristang · Apr 19, 2005

The way those wire work, you don't have to snap them to throw off the readings. Just a slight stretch is bad news. I would never recommend touching the wires with anything. I think it would be worth spraying an entire bottle, to keep from damaging those wires. My opinion.

Insane3D · Apr 19, 2005

vristang said:
The way those wire work, you don't have to snap them to throw off the readings. Just a slight stretch is bad news. I would never recommend touching the wires with anything. I think it would be worth spraying an entire bottle, to keep from damaging those wires. My opinion.

You can't really stretch them. No offense, but you haven't looked at them close enough. They are soldered to posts, and the wire coil itself is encased in a glass like material. You can't "stretch them".

See here for more info...

I'm not knocking your opinion, but I've done it, and I know you really can't do what you are saying is possible...

Edit:

This site, while I don't agree says to use carb and choke on the wires..

http://www.muscularmustangs.com/maf.php

Personally, I'd rather clean it with a q-tip then douse my sensor body with cleaning fluid...

MarSaleenMustan · Apr 19, 2005

doesnt that brakekleen(spelling?) brake cleaner work well for the maf? i was told buy a ford tech, personally used it and it runs fine. the reason for that along with most cleaners is becasue it dries pretty quickly.

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