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Tbird T5 vs Mustang T5

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lamrith

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Are these trans interchangable?? I want to do a T5 swap on my 2.3L (going Turbo) and I am hoping I can also look for Tbird trans as well.
 
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A 4cyl T5 is a 4cyl T5 is a 4cyl T5... and so on. There's been a couple of different gearsets but bolt for bolt they're the same. check out one of the T5 ID guides to find what applications got what gearsets. The early TC for instance got 1352-114 which had a 4.03 first gear and a .86 OD.
 

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From what I read, starting in '85 clear up til '93, all the T5's put behind the 2.3's whether turbo or non-turbo, were exactly the same- HOWEVER, the turbo cars had different speedo gears than the n/a 2.3's. (9 teeth versus 6, I think)
 

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Note the different input shafts from 5.0 T5.
 
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The T5's behind 2.3's were in fact different throughout the years.

85-86 TC had 1352-114 mentioned above
85-86 SVO got 116 which had a completely different set of gears
'87 TC had 155 which another different gearset
'87 non turbo 2.3 had the same gearset as 155 with a different OD
From 89-93 they were all the same gearset found in three different tag numbers.

Speedo drive gears were 6 or 7 tooth I believe. 7 being the most common.

This covers only the 4cyl. applications. The 5.0's are another deal all together.
 

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http://www.fordmuscle.com/archives/2000/09/t5swap/index2.shtml

OK, I was wrong about the early transmissions. Been awhile since I looked at that chart.

However, '87-88 Turbo Coupe transmissions are identical to '89-93 n/a 2.3L transmission, with the exception of a 6 tooth speedo drive, and the fact that they have an electronic speedo drive vs. the cable drive on the Mustangs. They have different ID numbers, but it's all the same gears.
 
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Yes, the 87 TC gearset is the same as the 89-93 Mustang gearset. I just didn't tie the two of them together in my post. Hell, even I was confused after posting.

I wonder now, if we answered his question or ran him off.
 

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RustBucket said:
Yes, the 87 TC gearset is the same as the 89-93 Mustang gearset. I just didn't tie the two of them together in my post. Hell, even I was confused after posting.

I wonder now, if we answered his question or ran him off.
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HAH!!

Take a hella lot more than that to run me off!! :SNSign:
 
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Cool!

So is all this clear as mud?
 
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trans

the 87, 88 turbo coupes had the world class t5 and a different input shaft.
 

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Actually all 4 cyl T5's after '87 were "world class", and also since all of them have the 3.97 first gear, they all all have the same input shaft as well.
 
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my tranny

i own a 93 2.3l lx, and i have been searching for months on what type of tranny it has. from the looks of this thread, it looks like a t5, but ive also seen places that say it coudl have a t45. i anyone konws what type, or can point me to a place where i can find out, i woudl greatly appreciate it. thx
 

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It has a T5, T45's weren't in Mustangs until like '98 or something.
 
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thx a lot, also, did the trasmissions in 2.3's and 5.0 have different spline counts?
 

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93_calypsolx said:
thx a lot, also, did the trasmissions in 2.3's and 5.0 have different spline counts?
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no, i believe the spline counts are the same, only the diameter of the input shaft was different.

Dr.
 
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thx a lot
 
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