TCP motor mount replica's

jae902 · Jan 20, 2004

Motor mounts that work just as good as TCP

I would love to have the total control motor mounts but there kinda expensive. My friend has a set right now that i'm looking at. Looks just like some steal welded together. I showed a machine shop the tcp mounts, they said they could make me a set that would work just as good, same idea but alittle different. Cost to make 1 is too much, but if i get 10 or more made from the machine shop, they said it would be around 110 bucks a set. Would anyone be interested in purchasing this? Or am i better off buying the set from tcp, 200 bucks from them.

streetgrande69 · Jan 20, 2004

I FIGURE I'LL BE THE FIRST TO LET YOU IN ON SOMETHING, YOU NEED TO BE CAREFUL WITH WHAT YOU SAY HERE. THERE ARE TCP EMPLOYEES THAT FREQUENT THE BOARD. I WOULDN'T REALLT GO AROUND ASKING IF ANYONE WANTS COPYS. I'D SAY SOMETHING LIKE "TCP LIKE".

I ALSO THINK 110 IS PRETTY HIGH FOR SOMETHING LIKE MOTOR MOUNTS.
THERES ALSO A LIABILITY THING WHEN YOU DO STUFF LIKE THIS. WHY DON'T YOU BE A REAL COOL GUY AND MAKE A PRINT AND DISTRIBUTE IT ON HERE FOR FREE? YOU CAN ALWAYS SELL THEM ON E-BAY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. BUT DON'Y MARKET THEM AS TCP COPYS, YOUR LOOKING TO GET SUED.

NOT TRYING TO NAG, JUST SOME INTERSSTING ADVICE FOR YA

I'D BE INTERESTED IN A SET OF PRINTS, BUT I WON'T BUY THEM

jae902 · Jan 20, 2004

streetgrande69 said:
I FIGURE I'LL BE THE FIRST TO LET YOU IN ON SOMETHING, YOU NEED TO BE CAREFUL WITH WHAT YOU SAY HERE. THERE ARE TCP EMPLOYEES THAT FREQUENT THE BOARD. I WOULDN'T REALLT GO AROUND ASKING IF ANYONE WANTS COPYS. I'D SAY SOMETHING LIKE "TCP LIKE".

I ALSO THINK 110 IS PRETTY HIGH FOR SOMETHING LIKE MOTOR MOUNTS.
THERES ALSO A LIABILITY THING WHEN YOU DO STUFF LIKE THIS. WHY DON'T YOU BE A REAL COOL GUY AND MAKE A PRINT AND DISTRIBUTE IT ON HERE FOR FREE? YOU CAN ALWAYS SELL THEM ON E-BAY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. BUT DON'Y MARKET THEM AS TCP COPYS, YOUR LOOKING TO GET SUED.

NOT TRYING TO NAG, JUST SOME INTERSSTING ADVICE FOR YA

I'D BE INTERESTED IN A SET OF PRINTS, BUT I WON'T BUY THEM

Not trying to market or sell anything for a profit. Just trying to save some money, and let others get in on it as well. I was told by some mechanics that i shouldn't bother with the stock mounts, cause they break fast. Recommend the tcp mount, but 200 is alot of money. If anyone one else sold me a set comprobable to tcp for almost half the price, i would be all over it. I wish i had some accurate prints of this thing myself. I could measure it with a tape measure, but how accurate is that goin to be. Not trying to screw tcp over, but wish they would lower there prices. Nothing has been made yet, so if this is a bad idea, then please tell me. It was just a thought, an alternative method to spending 200 bucks. Right now my engine is on a stand, and i need 64.5 motor mounts, not late 65 or 66, but 64.5 and early 65, something that most stores don't sell.

gp001 · Jan 20, 2004

So, when TCP goes out of business because people just copied their R&D instead of paying for it who will the Classic Mustang hobby have to steal from then?

Anyone can make something, it takes $$ and skill to design something.

Edbert · Jan 20, 2004

I am a TCP customer AND fan, but they gotta lower their freakin prices if they want any kind of real market share. I know this stuff takes a lot of money and time to R&D then manufacture. I also want them to become millionaires for their work, really I do. It just seems to me that they would be better off by lowering their margins and increasing their volume. I also know that means they'd have to work harder but that how you become a milionaire right?

I say get those mounts made and market them yourself. But take the advice and do not even say TCP-Like. Just call em solid motor mounts, period. Once there is another company that makes them TCP will lower their prices. After all, the R&D money is spent so every one they sell just makes more profit, which is good. Just look what Flaming River's new rack and pinion is doing to the prices of TCP's rack and pinion.

Maybe one of the Mustang vendors will take up the slack and make some for the rest of us who are not wealthy. Kinda like the Billet grille for 67/68s that are now available. I for one would be very interested in strong motor mounts that cost less.

jae902 · Jan 20, 2004

Sound like more of a head ache now, found the mounts for 184.95 plus tax and shipping. I'm just goin to bite the 200 bucks and buy it. But maybe someone else should design some mounts that are better than the stock. This was just a thought, but sounds like i have offended people, sorry, and lets just end the thread here.

mustangracer · Jan 20, 2004

While I agree it takes some skill to design a new product, as a middle of my degree ME it would have taken me 15 minutes to measure and lay out the plans for those mounts. The only difference between measuring theirs and making a copy for you OWN use and spending the 15-30 minutes to measure and lay out a set is that most of us don't have the spare car torn apart to allow us to measure it. Now there might be a problem having a machine shop copy the design for a bunch of people.

Now as to the measurements, a tape measure would be plenty accurate for something like the motor mounts. It's not like you need a micrometer or vernier calipers for something like this. I'm betting the inserts are simple urethane shock bushings too.

gp001 · Jan 20, 2004

mustangracer said:
While I agree it takes some skill to design a new product, as a middle of my degree ME it would have taken me 15 minutes to measure and lay out the plans for those mounts. The only difference between measuring theirs and making a copy for you OWN use and spending the 15-30 minutes to measure and lay out a set is that most of us don't have the spare car torn apart to allow us to measure it. Now there might be a problem having a machine shop copy the design for a bunch of people.

Now as to the measurements, a tape measure would be plenty accurate for something like the motor mounts. It's not like you need a micrometer or vernier calipers for something like this. I'm betting the inserts are simple urethane shock bushings too.

I don't think you need a Mechanical Engineering degree to layout those. I know several people that could probably fab those up (measure to finish product) in 30 min and they don't even have a high school diploma.

mustangracer · Jan 20, 2004

yah..

well, maybe I didn't state it well, but that's what I meant. I mean, it isn't rocket surgery...

In their defense..to meet product liability they probably had to do some calculations on things like the tear out strength of the mounting holes and such. But it's 1/4 or 3/16 plate for crying out loud....probably overkill for the application.

TurboDoctor · Jan 20, 2004

I made my own motor mounts like 5 years ago before I even heard of TCP. Took me like 30 minutes to plan them out, another 30 to plasma cut them out and about 15 to weld them up. I used some energy suspension bushings and some 3/16 and 1/4 plate. Thats why I usually dont post pics of the stuff I custom made because some one hacks them off. Not that really matters but it always irked me a little

bnickel · Jan 20, 2004

you could do something similar to, but not exactly like TCP's mounts and market them that way. just change the basic dimensions and shape of them and you should be able to sell them without violating and copyright laws, and if there is anything you see that could be improved you could incorporate that into your new design as well

sportsroof69 · Jan 21, 2004

Sacramento Mustang has a set of urethane motor and tranny mounts and Lakewood makes a replacement style motor mount that uses harder rubber. I have the Lakewoods and they are far superior to any other replacement mount that I have used. They fit better and last longer.

GaPonyFarm · Jan 21, 2004

Back in the old days (60's-70's) we used to just run a couple of grade 8 bolts through a motor mount, or weld a couple of "end plates" on. This had the effect of creating a solid motor mount. It was a low-tech solution that worked much better than chaining the engine down, and is much cheaper than what you're planning on spending... Just something to think about.

bnickel · Jan 21, 2004

GaPonyFarm said:
Back in the old days (60's-70's) we used to just run a couple of grade 8 bolts through a motor mount, or weld a couple of "end plates" on. This had the effect of creating a solid motor mount. It was a low-tech solution that worked much better than chaining the engine down, and is much cheaper than what you're planning on spending... Just something to think about.

most later model factory mounts from about 70-71 have a "retainer built into the mount, if you can find a decent set at the wrecking yard you should be good to go

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