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blackened88lx

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FAIL. Especially if it used to be black

MAC'n89Blckstng said:
I dunno guys, it may not be real. See how where the door molding came off, it is white. I don't know anyone who would paint it white, then stick the molding on and do the flag thing. I would imagin that they left the molding on the entire time since they are such a pain. In which case if its a cobra it should be black red or teal under there. Could be wrong, just hate to see a rea 93 treated like that.
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If it was a photoshop they would have put the paint right over where the molding is missing. They wouldn't have bothered removing paint in just that spot. So yes, someone really is that dumb...
 

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MAC'n89Blckstng said:
I dunno guys, it may not be real. See how where the door molding came off, it is white. I don't know anyone who would paint it white, then stick the molding on and do the flag thing. I would imagin that they left the molding on the entire time since they are such a pain. In which case if its a cobra it should be black red or teal under there. Could be wrong, just hate to see a rea 93 treated like that.
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Look harder there is also red there too. Im guessing they too the molding off painted the car then put it back on and matched it.
 

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MAC'n89Blckstng said:
I dunno guys, it may not be real. See how where the door molding came off, it is white. I don't know anyone who would paint it white, then stick the molding on and do the flag thing. I would imagin that they left the molding on the entire time since they are such a pain. In which case if its a cobra it should be black red or teal under there. Could be wrong, just hate to see a rea 93 treated like that.
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well actually the body shop did it the right way by removing the moldings then spraying the base coat, then putting the painted moldings on the car and spraying the graphics all at once.

If they did it the way your describing it would mean that they would have to match the flag graphics from the car to the body molding, which would be a serious PIA.

While i wouldnt do it to my personal car, at least its an american flag and not a mexican, jamacian, british, french, puerto rican, or italian flag
 

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Here's another

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i think they both look good! big deal if it's a 93 COBRA! Why is it everyone is soooo excitted about the 93 COBRAS? Really what is it! Cobras come with intake cam injecters ground effects rear wing front grill wheels 4 wheel disc and maybe a diffrent t5? Is that all? Big ****ing deal! Out of everything i see and read on here this is one thing that irks me everytime i read it! OH NO they did that to a 93 COBRA Or 93 COBRA this or 93 COBRA that! Really whats so dam special about these?Now if it were a cobra R i could understand that,or a 95R or 2000R,Does anyone get this excitted over any other year cobra's (well besides a 03/04). peace












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Meh.. Reminds me of Mike Murillo's old Texas Jam car. Which I'd be extatic to have.
 

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SMOKEDYA said:
i think they both look good! big deal if it's a 93 COBRA! Why is it everyone is soooo excitted about the 93 COBRAS? Really what is it! Cobras come with intake cam injecters ground effects rear wing front grill wheels 4 wheel disc and maybe a diffrent t5? Is that all? Big ****ing deal! Out of everything i see and read on here this is one thing that irks me everytime i read it! OH NO they did that to a 93 COBRA Or 93 COBRA this or 93 COBRA that! Really whats so dam special about these?Now if it were a cobra R i could understand that,or a 95R or 2000R,Does anyone get this excitted over any other year cobra's (well besides a 03/04). peace












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i totally agree, i would drive it if it were cleaner, i'd definitely drive that new edge
 

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strtrcr50 said:
Meh.. Reminds me of Mike Murillo's old Texas Jam car. Which I'd be extatic to have.
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have you seen murillo's new car? thing is a BAMF if ive ever seen one



 

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words cannot describe the total lack of awesome!
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it should be used in music videos about patriotism.
 

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OK I know mine doesn't have any stars on it but it is red white and blue. I know something like this isn't for everyone but I do like it. It makes it stand out. Really how many other cars do you see like this.
 

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90lxcoupe said:
well actually the body shop did it the right way by removing the moldings then spraying the base coat, then putting the painted moldings on the car and spraying the graphics all at once.

If they did it the way your describing it would mean that they would have to match the flag graphics from the car to the body molding, which would be a serious PIA.
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I agree, I'm just surprised that a shop that would do that to a car would go to the extent of actually basing it, then putting on the molding and doing to flag thing. lol I could see some backyard "body man" doing something like that. If your gonna do that, acutally air brush it and make it look 3D or something.
 

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As a Canadian - I think the cobra looks kinda cool. but then I would have to paint it if I bought it:

 

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Cobra912 said:
As a Canadian - I think the cobra looks kinda cool. but then I would have to paint it if I bought it:
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SMOKEDYA said:
i think they both look good! big deal if it's a 93 COBRA! Why is it everyone is soooo excitted about the 93 COBRAS? Really what is it! Cobras come with intake cam injecters ground effects rear wing front grill wheels 4 wheel disc and maybe a diffrent t5? Is that all? Big ****ing deal! Out of everything i see and read on here this is one thing that irks me everytime i read it! OH NO they did that to a 93 COBRA Or 93 COBRA this or 93 COBRA that! Really whats so dam special about these?Now if it were a cobra R i could understand that,or a 95R or 2000R,Does anyone get this excitted over any other year cobra's (well besides a 03/04). peace
john
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93 cobras also had different heads...

Whats the difference between a 93 cobra and a 93R, or a 95R or 2000R????

Aren't they all just mustangs with hopped up engines/suspensions/brakes/ground effects???????????? Same reason people (including myself) get all hopped up over 93 cobras is the SAME reason we get hopped up over 95r's and 00r's and 03-04's... Just IMO
 

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1990Coupe said:
93 cobras also had different heads...

Whats the difference between a 93 cobra and a 93R, or a 95R or 2000R????

Aren't they all just mustangs with hopped up engines/suspensions/brakes/ground effects???????????? Same reason people (including myself) get all hopped up over 93 cobras is the SAME reason we get hopped up over 95r's and 00r's and 03-04's... Just IMO
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Wrong, the R-models are low production, collecters cars, if someone was to buy any year cobra R and modify it, they would be nuts, or have more money than brains. there were only 107 93 cobra R's made. the 95 R's were along the same lines but had a 351.

You cant compare any cobra R to a 93 or 03-04 cobra. While 93 cobra's are getting rare, if i bought one i wouldnt feel bad about changing the wheels or motor. And an 03-04 cobra is a dime a dozen, if you sneeze on those its considered a modification. If you buy an 03/04 cobra and dont modify it you shouldnt own one in my opinion.
 

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90lxcoupe said:
Wrong, the R-models are low production, collecters cars, if someone was to buy any year cobra R and modify it, they would be nuts, or have more money than brains. there were only 107 93 cobra R's made. the 95 R's were along the same lines but had a 351.

You cant compare any cobra R to a 93 or 03-04 cobra. While 93 cobra's are getting rare, if i bought one i wouldnt feel bad about changing the wheels or motor. And an 03-04 cobra is a dime a dozen, if you sneeze on those its considered a modification. If you buy an 03/04 cobra and dont modify it you shouldnt own one in my opinion.
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Yes i know they have low production numbers.. But other then the low production number whats so special about them??

yes i would never mod an R model, and anyone who does would be just foolish. Any low production "special" car like that shouldn't be modified IMO.
 

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http://www.muscularmustangs.com/2005/svtcobrar.php said:
1993 Cobra R
The '93 "R" was a bare bones bad ass Mustang that was meant for one thing. Racing. To save weight this competition model was stripped of all but it's bare essentials including air conditioning, rear carpeting and the radio system with it's speakers, amps, and wiring. To further save weight they eliminated all sound dampening insulation, carpet padding, and body seam sealer. Also since a race car rarely needs rear seats they were removed with the seat belts, and seat brackets to further remove weight which also made this the only factory production Fox Body Mustang ever to come as a two seater.

To further increase performance the Cobra R was equipped with larger brakes, stiffer coil springs, Koni shocks, larger anti roll bars, and a strut tower brace. To reduce operation temperatures and increase durability at race speeds the "R" was also equipped with a larger capacity radiator and oil cooler. The only exterior difference between the R model and the standard Cobra were it's special five lug wheels. These were actually the same wheels to be used on the newly styled upcoming 1994 mustang GT. To later become known as "Tribars" Ford decided to paint them glossy black and to also polish the center caps and wheel lips to keep them distinguished from the 94-95 wheels.

1995 Cobra R
With the much more rigid all new SN-95 platform for 1994, SVT started the planning of a more powerful Cobra R for the 1995 model year. As with the previous R model this one was also lightened by removing the radio system, air conditioning, rear seat, and sound dampening material. To further save weight it was only available with manual windows, manual door locks, and cloth seats as SVT knew that racers would no doubt strip the interior and swap the seats with competition approved race buckets.
With the previous R model Ford decided to keep the Cobra's stock 5.0L engine, but this year things would be different. For the first time in two decades the Cobra R was equipped with an EPA approved 351cid (5.8L) Windsor motor that sported cast iron GT40 heads, a roller camshaft, and a specially designed (to fit the 351) lower fuel injected intake manifold mated to a regular Cobra upper intake. All of this resulting in an engine that produced a healthy 300hp and 365lb/ft of torque which according to most sources was slightly under rated. Also according to 5.0 Mustang Magazine "All 250 were built on February 19, 1995 in a period of only 6.2 hours!!!"

To handle the extra power the engine was mated to a Tremec TR-3550 five speed transmission backed with a solid axle rear end equipped with a 3.27:1 gear ratio and a limited slip differential. To further increase the performance of this steed it was equipped with special coil springs made by Eibach, Koni "yellow" shocks and struts, a larger front anti roll bar, and a strut tower brace. Also to increase brake cooling the fog lights were replaced with air ducting to force cool air over the brakes.
To increase durability these cars were shipped from the Dearborn Assembly Plant that they were built in to an outside company called Masotech for installation of an aftermarket 20 gallon rubberized fuel cell and a heavy duty cooling system. To further distinguish this from a standard Cobra, and more obviously to clear the larger engine Masotech also installed a lightweight fiberglass cowl induction hood. The only other exterior accoutrement added to this car were it's special wheels. These new five spoke 17 inch "Cobra R" wheels not only looked good on the R model but also became one of the most favored wheels for Mustang enthusiasts to install on their rides with many aftermarket replicas to be made in the years following.

Available in only Crystal White, only 250 1995 Cobra R models were ever produced. Since many, if not most, 1993 R's were sold to collectors Ford decided to only sell this model to persons with a competition license hoping that most of these cars would be used for racing competition rather than sitting in private collections.
History of the Cobra R


In 1993 Ford OK'd the production of a limited edition version of it's Mustang to be produced by it's newly formed Specialty Vehicles Team, SVT for short. This model would become to be known as the SVT Cobra. Since this would also be the last of Fox Body Mustangs the '93 SVT Cobra would also become one of the most sought after Fox Mustangs produced even today. To go even further Ford decided to also let SVT produce an ultra rare limited production race version of this car to be known as the Cobra R.

1993 Cobra R
The '93 "R" was a bare bones bad ass Mustang that was meant for one thing. Racing. To save weight this competition model was stripped of all but it's bare essentials including air conditioning, rear carpeting and the radio system with it's speakers, amps, and wiring. To further save weight they eliminated all sound dampening insulation, carpet padding, and body seam sealer. Also since a race car rarely needs rear seats they were removed with the seat belts, and seat brackets to further remove weight which also made this the only factory production Fox Body Mustang ever to come as a two seater.



Carlton Moore's 1993 Cobra R

To further increase performance the Cobra R was equipped with larger brakes, stiffer coil springs, Koni shocks, larger anti roll bars, and a strut tower brace. To reduce operation temperatures and increase durability at race speeds the "R" was also equipped with a larger capacity radiator and oil cooler. The only exterior difference between the R model and the standard Cobra were it's special five lug wheels. These were actually the same wheels to be used on the newly styled upcoming 1994 mustang GT. To later become known as "Tribars" Ford decided to paint them glossy black and to also polish the center caps and wheel lips to keep them distinguished from the 94-95 wheels.



Carlton Moore's 1993 Cobra R

Available in only Vibrant Red, only 107 1993 Cobra R models were ever produced making it the rarest, fastest, and most collectible Fox Body Mustang of all time.

1995 Cobra R
With the much more rigid all new SN-95 platform for 1994, SVT started the planning of a more powerful Cobra R for the 1995 model year. As with the previous R model this one was also lightened by removing the radio system, air conditioning, rear seat, and sound dampening material. To further save weight it was only available with manual windows, manual door locks, and cloth seats as SVT knew that racers would no doubt strip the interior and swap the seats with competition approved race buckets.



Picture courtesy of 5.0 Mustang Magazine

With the previous R model Ford decided to keep the Cobra's stock 5.0L engine, but this year things would be different. For the first time in two decades the Cobra R was equipped with an EPA approved 351cid (5.8L) Windsor motor that sported cast iron GT40 heads, a roller camshaft, and a specially designed (to fit the 351) lower fuel injected intake manifold mated to a regular Cobra upper intake. All of this resulting in an engine that produced a healthy 300hp and 365lb/ft of torque which according to most sources was slightly under rated. Also according to 5.0 Mustang Magazine "All 250 were built on February 19, 1995 in a period of only 6.2 hours!!!"

To handle the extra power the engine was mated to a Tremec TR-3550 five speed transmission backed with a solid axle rear end equipped with a 3.27:1 gear ratio and a limited slip differential. To further increase the performance of this steed it was equipped with special coil springs made by Eibach, Koni "yellow" shocks and struts, a larger front anti roll bar, and a strut tower brace. Also to increase brake cooling the fog lights were replaced with air ducting to force cool air over the brakes.



Picture courtesy of 5.0 Mustang Magazine

To increase durability these cars were shipped from the Dearborn Assembly Plant that they were built in to an outside company called Masotech for installation of an aftermarket 20 gallon rubberized fuel cell and a heavy duty cooling system. To further distinguish this from a standard Cobra, and more obviously to clear the larger engine Masotech also installed a lightweight fiberglass cowl induction hood. The only other exterior accoutrement added to this car were it's special wheels. These new five spoke 17 inch "Cobra R" wheels not only looked good on the R model but also became one of the most favored wheels for Mustang enthusiasts to install on their rides with many aftermarket replicas to be made in the years following.

Available in only Crystal White, only 250 1995 Cobra R models were ever produced. Since many, if not most, 1993 R's were sold to collectors Ford decided to only sell this model to persons with a competition license hoping that most of these cars would be used for racing competition rather than sitting in private collections.

2000 Cobra R
Even with their being no Cobra model for 2000, SVT decided to created an R model that would blow away previous year versions. The heart and soul of this new "R" was a 5.4L DOHC (dual overhead cam) engine that was stated to produce 385hp, and 385lb/ft of torque. Inside sources claim those number were highly under rated with the actual power numbers being upwards of 400-450hp. Based off of a Lincoln Navigator engine block and crankshaft, this engine had unique to the Cobra R aluminum heads, camshafts, Carillo billet steel connecting rods, forged pistons and a Canton oil pan. To allow this new motor to breath it was equipped with a hand built aluminum intake manifold and single bore throttle body. On the other side of the combustion chamber stainless steel short tube headers, a Bassani x-pipe, Borla mufflers and side exhaust kit help this bad boy exhale. To keep it emissions legal it was also equipped with '98 Cobra catalytic converters. All '00 Cobra R engines were totally hand built as a large prototype program at Ford’s Engine Manufacturing Development Operations. Mated to a Tremec T56 six speed transmission this new engine/trans combo is bullet proof.
On the suspension side of things this R model was equipped with Bilstein shocks and struts, and Eibach springs. For brakes on the front it has four piston aluminum calipers squeezing 13inch Brembo discs with Galpher pads, and the rear with stock Cobra discs/calipers using special Akebono pads. As with the previous "R" the fog lights were removed to facilitate air cooling to the brakes through carbon fiber ducts. To make it stick, BFGoodrich G-ForceKD 265/40 tires were rapped around 18 inch five spoke aluminum rims.

Yet again all non essentials were removed including the air conditioning, radio system, rear seat, sound dampening material, and some trim pieces. The all black interior includes a set of specially made Recaro cloth bucket seats embroidered with the Cobra R logo.
Unlike previous R models this years exterior modifications were much more than just looks. It was equipped with a wind tunnel tested removable front air dam that reduced front lift by as much as 10 times, and a large rear wing that adds 3 times the downforce over the stock wing. Other exterior add ons were a large cowl induction hood, side exhaust side skirts, and 18 inch wheels.

Available in only Performance Red, only 300 2000 Cobra R's were ever made. Yet again they were only sold to those with a competition license. Unfortunately when the '00 Cobra was released most dealers raised the price by extraoridnary amounts. Yours truely saw one of these $54,000 MSRP R's being sold by a dealership online for $90K+. All in all the '00 Cobra R is arguably the best handling factory built Mustang of all time.
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To anyone that cares, thats a pretty accurate history of the three R mustangs, each one for thier day could hold thier own on the racetrack and were basially stripped down cars built for the road course. The 2000 R is obv tha baddest of the bunch. If i owned one i definitly wouldnt modify it, but it would be at the racetrack every chance i got.
 

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OK I know mine doesn't have any stars on it but it is red white and blue. I know something like this isn't for everyone but I do like it. It makes it stand out. Really how many other cars do you see like this.
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I think your car looks good
 

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Wow maybe it is just me but I dont agree about the 93. Would I modify it? YEP. Would I molest it? NOPE. I see value in a specialty and limited production car regardless. My SVT Focus, cobras, Saleens etc. and there are others out there like me. Could it be returned back to stock? I am sure but it still would cost a lot. It pains me. Wait 20 more years and the 93 Cobras will be worth a pretty penny if left alone and we can sit down and compare pricing then to a stock GT that hasnt been touched. I know the Cobra will sell for more.
 
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