the H or X debate

hotmustang331 · Jan 10, 2006

^ I do agree, the old hotrodders do get set in their ways. But I do think that they few who tried them didnt like the (sound, loss of torque maybe, ect) and that just fueled the fire lol. Once they start getting togethor with both disslikes and the fact that they liked their exhaust...they just decided that Xs suck HAHA.
But i did convince my dad to love the Xs . Hes going with one on his falcon when the time comes.

And as a side note, I felt ZERO loss of lowend torque (about even below 1500) when I replaced my stock H with my O/R X...in fact it gained nearly everywhere. SO I guess it really dpends on the car. And on a dyno it may not show any loss since most dont pull down to 1500 or less. But thats my experiance...Xs ROCK!

JayC · Jan 10, 2006

GNN60GT500 said:
So if you are not posting to debate X pipe vs H pipe, then why post at all-

Dude you posted the link to the article ...not me

Jay

GNN60GT500 · Jan 10, 2006

hotmustang331 said:
^ I do agree, the old hotrodders do get set in their ways. But I do think that they few who tried them didnt like the (sound, loss of torque maybe, ect) and that just fueled the fire lol. Once they start getting togethor with both disslikes and the fact that they liked their exhaust...they just decided that Xs suck HAHA.
But i did convince my dad to love the Xs . Hes going with one on his falcon when the time comes.

And as a side note, I felt ZERO loss of lowend torque (about even below 1500) when I replaced my stock H with my O/R X...in fact it gained nearly everywhere. SO I guess it really dpends on the car. And on a dyno it may not show any loss since most dont pull down to 1500 or less. But thats my experiance...Xs ROCK!

I agree with you completely-

deftsound · Jan 11, 2006

oh well, i think its more of a preference more than anything, the gains either way are minimal

btw gnn60gt, the dynomax mufflers are straight through mufflers as well, ive heard people say they are designed very similar (if not the same) to magnaflows, do you know if they are in fact comparebly the same mufflers or are their significant design differences between the two?

TangerineGT96 · Jan 11, 2006

i have a mac h-pipe with flows and i love the way it sounds but i have been wonderin about the x soo this thread helps me out

JRFlurry114 · Jan 11, 2006

I love my setup! It took a lot of effort for some reason to get it all to fit right but the sound is sweet.

GNN60GT500 · Jan 11, 2006

deftsound said:
btw gnn60gt, the dynomax mufflers are straight through mufflers as well, ive heard people say they are designed very similar (if not the same) to magnaflows, do you know if they are in fact comparebly the same mufflers or are their significant design differences between the two?

They are very comparable mufflers-

Here are the design differences between the two-

DynoMax UltraFlow on the Offset/Offset muffler uses on piece of pipe coming into each end of the muffler, then they slash cut a third piece and put it inside the muffler between the two pieces coming in on either side and weld it-

so there are three seperate pieces of pipes with two places welded internally-

Magnaflow uses a single piece of pipe which is mandrel bent inside the muffler so there are no welds and smooth bends-

The other difference is packing- the Ultraflows will be louder then the standard Magnaflow-

They use a CRF (continuously roving fiber) which is in essence a form of angle hair fiberglass-

We use an Italian Rockwool, which is more expensive, however it aborbs sound much better making our mufflers quieter inside the vehicle-

Both the UltraFlow and Magnaflow are a fully welded muffler, both are stainless, and I believe the UltraFlow also comes with a life time warranty-

Those are the differences between the two-

Thanks
Brent

deftsound · Jan 11, 2006

cool thanks, i always thought that the magnaflows would be louder but i guess i was wrong. When i first got my dynomax's welded in they were really quiet, it took the offroad pipe to really waken them up.

40th GT · Jan 11, 2006

Any other Prochamber owners wanna chime in and drop their 2 cents? I'm wondering how the PC compares to x pipes.

white-04 · Jan 11, 2006

Pro-chamber may not be the best comparison. MRT H-pipe is a true H with no chamber. I love it, excellent quality. Weighs 10lbs less than stock piece. Guy on here has a website (url at work) dyno'd 9rwhp for just the catted MRT H. The rumble you hear when going under a bridge puts a smile on my face every time

40th GT · Jan 11, 2006

white-04 said:
Pro-chamber may not be the best comparison. MRT H-pipe is a true H with no chamber. I love it, excellent quality. Weighs 10lbs less than stock piece. Guy on here has a website (url at work) dyno'd 9rwhp for just the catted MRT H. The rumble you hear when going under a bridge puts a smile on my face every time

Wow, that just gives me even more options for a midpipe. So many choices, I can't decide.

MidnightGT · Jan 11, 2006

Im going with a True X pipe from mustangtuning....

cobrahissss · Jan 14, 2006

I really liked the sound of the non catted H pipe with Flowmaster 2 chambers (what I was looking for) but had to go with the Bassani catted X due to ''very noticeable"' low end torque improvement (back pressure). The H felt like I was dragging an anchor. Wondering if a catted H would have given me the sound back and the low end torque of the catted X.

menasci · Jan 15, 2006

cobrahissss said:
I really liked the sound of the non catted H pipe with Flowmaster 2 chambers (what I was looking for) but had to go with the Bassani catted X due to ''very noticeable"' low end torque improvement (back pressure). The H felt like I was dragging an anchor. Wondering if a catted H would have given me the sound back and the low end torque of the catted X.

I think you made the right move to a catted x

sgarlic · Apr 1, 2006

H pipes>X pipes. *neener neener neeeener*

topless98gt · Apr 1, 2006

deftsound said:
the power gains are gonna be about the same as far as an x or h pipe goes.

You may be incorrect here. If I remember correctly, the X produces more high-end torque than the H.

mransr · Apr 1, 2006

helty said:
X= nascar
H=muscle car

well that certainly is one opinion...

for me
X=60's Trans Am car or a GT-40*
H=UPS truck

*pop "Grand Prix" into the VHS and listen the the on board sounds, many are from the GT-40 chase car

EPIK · Apr 1, 2006

I wish MRT made a good catted h pipe for my 97 cobra. I have yet to find a good stainless, catted h pipe from any company, so I will probably go with a Bassani x pipe instead.

Camshaft213 · Apr 1, 2006

i have dr gas o/r x and love it. wouldnt change it for the world

Outlaw97GT · Apr 1, 2006

I love the way my car sounds. H-Pipe with flowmaster 40's.
Sound just as mean as the 70 Buick GS 455 I had when I was a 18.

But to each their own......

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