Yeah the league I am in, is the stangnet league and the draft was kinda weird. It was automatic all you did was rank the players by position and then what position you want to draft in each round.
Imo it would have been better to just pick whatever player you want at your pick but whatever works.
Well lets think about this here. Belichick's career record is 124-84, which is .596 winning percentage while Shanahan is 140-86 for .619 (so no Redline, he does not have the best winning percentage). Shanahan has also enjoyed success just about everywhere he's been while Belichick was run out of Cleveland after only posting 1 winning record in 5 years there.
Those are the facts.
Now if we want to talk about opinions, I think the Patriots made Belichick and not the other way around. He sucked in Cleveland and the Patriots haven't looked the same since Romeo Crennel and Charile Weis left.
Shanahan on the other hand, had Denver in the AFC Championship in his 2nd year and won back to back Super Bowls in his 3rd and 4th years. His only losing season with the Broncos came in 99 after we won the Super Bowl when Elway retired and we lost TD, Sharpe and John Mobley within the first half of the season. Even then, he was only a few lucky bounces away from 9-7. Shanahan made Brian Griese and Jake Plummer look like good quarterbacks, turn absolute nobodies into 1500 yard rushers and ALWAYS has his team in the hunt despite still trying to reload from the Super Bowl years.
Belichick is definetly a good coach, and I don't believe the margin between him and Shanny is that great, but any sensible person who looks at the bigger picture is going to take Shanahan over him.
Also, remember today that you played the Jets, who are far from a good team.
So close this thread? OK...Belichick has a better playoff record over Shanahan, period
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Youre not sensible imo, you are biased as is gt40 towards Billichick, but Im not since I dont root for either team. In fact I would go against New England anytime I can.
Lets break this down
First lets start with your boy
1988 Raiders - 7-9
1989 Raiders - 8-8
Playoff appearances - 0 (Id hardly consider that success as you mentioned in your post)
Playoff Pct - 0% (0/0 appearances)
1995 Denver - 8 - 8 missed playoffs
1996 Denver - 13 - 3 Divisional game loss
1997 Denver - 12 - 4 SB win
1998 Denver - 14 - 2 SB win
1999 Denver - 6 - 10 missed playoffs
2000 Denver - 11 - 5 Wild card game loss
2001 Denver - 8 - 8 missed playoffs
2002 Denver - 9 - 7 missed playoffs
2003 Denver - 10 - 6 Wild card game loss
2004 Denver - 10 - 6 Wild card game loss
2005 Denver - 13 - 3 AFC title game
2006 Denver - 9 - 7 missed playoffs
Playoff appearances - 7, 3 AFC title games, 2 SB Wins
Playoff Pct - 58% (7/12 season)
AFC Title Game Pct - 42% (3/7)
Title Pct - 28% (2/7)
That means he has made the playoffs 58% of his games with Denver and really other than 2005 didnt pose any serious threat to go to the Super Bowl, espcially with 3 1st or 2nd round losses and 4 times not even making the playoffs in the 8 years since Elway.
Now lets look at the big sweatshirt
1991 Cleveland - 6 - 10
1992 Cleveland - 7 - 9
1993 Cleveland - 7 - 9
1994 Cleveland - 11 - 5 1 playoff win
1995 Cleveland - 5 - 11
Playoff appearances - 1 wins 1
Playoff Pct - 20% (1/5)
AFC Title Game Pct - 0% (0/1)
Title Pct - 0% (0/1)
Although his stint at Cleveland wasnt stellar at least he took his team to a playoff appearance and even a win unlike Shannahan at Oakland.
2000 New England - 5-11
2001 New England - 11 -5 SB Win
2002 New England - 9-7 missed playoffs
2003 New England - 14-2 SB Win
2004 New England - 14-2 SB Win
2005 New England - 10-6 Divisional Round Loss
2006 New England - 12-4 AFC title loss
Playoff appearances - 5, 4 AFC title games, 3 Superbowls
Playoff Pct - 71% (5/7 seasons)
AFC Title Game Pct - 80% (4/5)
Title Pct - 60% (3/5)
I dont know about you , but Id say Bellichiks playoff resume is better than Shannahans wouldnt you?
If you still dont believe the stats, then correct me if I am wrong but isnt the ultimate goal to win championships. Who has more Billichick of Shannahan.
Bellichick 3 SB wins in 12 total seasons and 3 in 7 seasons with the Pats
Shannahan 2 SB wins in 14 total seasons and 2 in 12 seasons with the Broncos
Yeah thats what I though. The facts remains Denver has not been a viable superbowl contender since the 1998 title season. NE has won 3 since then.
You obvioulsy can think whatever you want and Shannahan is a good coach for sure but he is not currently one of the elite coaches.
Belichick is definetly a top notch coach and I have alot of respect for him, but all other things being equal there is no way I'd take him over Shanahan.
Your entitled to think that. I'll take the coach with 3 recent superbowl rings.
Belichick has the highest win percentage of any coach in the NFL. If that does not make you the best I dont know what does.
Belichick has a better playoff record over Shanahan, period
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lol its all over espn aswell if there cheats then i lose respect for the whole coaching staff period no making excuses for tht.
Dam I miss the news because I didnt want to watch the 9/11 stuff and I miss all this.....
I dont agree with the loss of draft picks because that is not an immediate loss to the team, how about a coaching suspension like in NASCAR when they dump a crew chief for 3 races. Or something like that. Dont get me wrong losing draft picks for next season is BAD but not an affect on this season.
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