The SN65 project car

SN65 · Nov 4, 2005

Hi All,

Wayne just got back from SEMA. This was Wayne’s first trip to SEMA and he was amazed at the shear size of the event.

Before he left for the show, we had a short discussion about what he was expecting to see. He thought that he would be seeing the best of the best. He also thought that the quality of work we were producing would fall somewhere in the middle of the pack. And while he saw some mighty fine rides on display, he now figures that our project would have been somewhere in the top 5%, as far as overall quality goes. This was a real shock to Wayne.

This was very gratifying to hear. As I said, we talked about this very topic before he left. I was a little disappointed that we could not find a sponsor willing to showcase the car. In fact, I had difficulty finding anybody who would give the matter more than passing consideration. This left me with the feeling that maybe this is not as nice a project as we have led ourselves to believe. Now I feel a bit better about showing the car in the future.

I am wet sanding the interior pieces getting them ready for their final paint. Wayne is catching up on paperwork for the shop. I will be posting an update soon.

Catch ya'll l8r.

monk302 · Nov 4, 2005

SN65 said:
This was very gratifying to hear. As I said, we talked about this very topic before he left. I was a little disappointed that we could not find a sponsor willing to showcase the car. In fact, I had difficulty finding anybody who would give the matter more than passing consideration. This left me with the feeling that maybe this is not as nice a project as we have led ourselves to believe. Now I feel a bit better about showing the car in the future.

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Bob,

I think (and I know most here do) that your project, fabrication, and sheer willingness to tackle such a feat is incredible. This project is by far the nicest I have seen on this websites and others. To put in other ways, while going into autostores that I frequent often, I have shown them this thread and everyone has been amazed of your fabrication abilities. I have done that with no other projects that I have seen.

Here is my prediction. Once you get this car finished and start showing, you are going to have MUCH more interest in the car. Whether it be from individual, companies, or magazine, I think there is going to be alot of hype when this is done. I personally can't wait.

Again, thanks for sharing your progress with the website and all of us on it.

ttoney · Nov 4, 2005

I am actually shocked that several magazines are not hounding you......

65mistress · Nov 4, 2005

Does the House of Kolor or PPG have boothes at these shows? Maybe if you had someone come in to see the project they'd change their minds.

Jc69Stang · Nov 5, 2005

It is crazy that the media isn't pounding your doors down for coverage, but once that car is on the street and show scene, it will have no competition.

And that primer/sealer looks nicer than my paint....

SN65 · Nov 7, 2005

Hi All,

New update at the site.

Catch ya'll l8r

cougar_68 · Nov 7, 2005

SN65 said:
Hi All,

New update at the site.

Catch ya'll l8r

I vote that you use the stock window "cranks" for the window up/down switch. I don't remember where right off hand, but I have seen those and they are pretty slick.

Here's one they have on summit...for example http://store.summitracing.com/default.asp?target=partdetail.asp&autofilter=1&Ntt=power+window+switch&N=0&Nao=20&part=HFM%2DEWS%2D1&autoview=sku&Ntk=KeywordSearch

bnickel · Nov 7, 2005

www.autotronics.com should have them

bigcat · Nov 7, 2005

cougar_68 said:
I vote that you use the stock window "cranks" for the window up/down switch. I don't remember where right off hand, but I have seen those and they are pretty slick.

Here's one they have on summit...for example http://store.summitracing.com/default.asp?target=partdetail.asp&autofilter=1&Ntt=power+window+switch&N=0&Nao=20&part=HFM%2DEWS%2D1&autoview=sku&Ntk=KeywordSearch

i looked on autolocs website, and could not find these. i even entered the part # and nothing. this is what i was going to suggest as well. it eliminates the need to custom make switch locations. this would look the best IMO. a switch in the console would look out of place.

SN65 · Nov 8, 2005

bigcat said:
i looked on autolocs website, and could not find these. i even entered the part # and nothing. this is what i was going to suggest as well. it eliminates the need to custom make switch locations. this would look the best IMO. a switch in the console would look out of place.

Hi All,

At one point I gave this a lot of consideration. When all is said and done, there is only one small problem with this idea. The 03 dash covers the window crank hole. That being the case, there is not enough room to locate the window crank any where else on the panel.

I think we will be able to locate the 03 switches in a logical spot on the doors, but I am waiting to see how all the other internal items fit inside before making a final decision.

Stang2Man · Nov 8, 2005

How about putting the window switches in the console? Use the 94-98? style buttons that were used for the foglights and convertible top controls, that way you'd have the two way function and ford parts to boot.

Bad92GT · Nov 8, 2005

Stang2Man said:
How about putting the window switches in the console? Use the 94-98? style buttons that were used for the foglights and convertible top controls, that way you'd have the two way function and ford parts to boot.

that there is the best idea i believe.. you could make a panel out of aluminum, put a nice emblem and cut out the holes.. hide the panel in the ash tray.. i made one for my fox.. check it out..

hope it gives u a idea!

tjm73 · Nov 8, 2005

I am afraid to even wonder how much money is invested in this. The fabrication costs alone have to be staggering. But WOW what a car!!!!

bigcat · Nov 8, 2005

SN65 said:
Hi All,

At one point I gave this a lot of consideration. When all is said and done, there is only one small problem with this idea. The 03 dash covers the window crank hole. That being the case, there is not enough room to locate the window crank any where else on the panel.

I think we will be able to locate the 03 switches in a logical spot on the doors, but I am waiting to see how all the other internal items fit inside before making a final decision.

how about a pic of the interior (door panels included) so we can suggest some locations. IMO center mount window switches are unnatural, and should be avoided. but if you have to, i know you will make a good decision, like the rest of the car!! you want the switches handy, but dont want them to look out of place as well.

1320stang · Nov 8, 2005

I know of lots of cars that have had center mount window switches, unfortunately, they've all been GM's.

One suggestion I have if you mount them in the doors. Mount them in a lotaction that you don't hit them with your knee. The power window switch location in the '87-'91 F-series truck was very prone to lowering the window with your knee as it was unnaturally low.

Another suggestion, since they don't have to go all the way around, could you not relocate them elsewhere in the door panel and do the window crank ones?

bnickel · Nov 8, 2005

1320stang said:
I know of lots of cars that have had center mount window switches, unfortunately, they've all been GM's.

One suggestion I have if you mount them in the doors. Mount them in a lotaction that you don't hit them with your knee. The power window switch location in the '87-'91 F-series truck was very prone to lowering the window with your knee as it was unnaturally low.

Another suggestion, since they don't have to go all the way around, could you not relocate them elsewhere in the door panel and do the window crank ones?

very good point. the window cramk switch units do not have to mount where the original window cranks were, you can put them anywhere they will fit.

Edbert · Nov 8, 2005

A pair of switches mounted in the center console doesn't bother me either. As someone already pointed out the 94-98 Mustangs had these for foglights and covertible-top. The question is will that arrangement work on the newer consoles without looking like it was glued on or some sort of afterthought.

If it doesn't look factory don't do it!

68rustang · Nov 8, 2005

I used to have a 3 series BMW with the window switches on the center console. I always thought it made plenty of sense. Both switches were easily accessable by either the passenger or driver and you only needed two switches instead of three (two on the driver door one on passenger) or four (two on both doors) for the same amount of functionality.

ttoney · Nov 8, 2005

It does seem to make sense in the center but it bugs the CRAP out of me. If opinions count, mine is put them on the door if possible.

65up2d8 · Nov 8, 2005

Not to offend anyone, but with the late model dash, console, and all of the creature comforts this ride will have, I think the window cranks would look out of place. To me, the theme on the inside of this ride is modern. I especially think the window cranks would look out of place if they weren't mounted in the stock location.
As far as door or console mounted switches, like someone said, I think it would depend on how they will blend with the console. You can definitely make them blend into the door panels.
One other thought would be to go with some of the street rod type armrests with the switches built in. I don't know exactly what's available and how they would fit the theme, but there is a '68 coupe in the August 2005 Mustang & Fords with some street rod armrests that look awesome.

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