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s&k stangs

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I scanned through previous posts on this topic, but didnt see exactly what I was looking for. My 91 gt is bone stock, aside from K&N. The coolant is disappearing. I seem to have add coolant every couple of weeks or so. There doesnt appear to be water in the oil, and I havent found any puddles on the driveway. I only have a stock temp gauge and even at operating temp, the needle never rises above the second line from the bottom. I have only had the car a couple of years, so I'm not sure what temp thermostat is in the car. Could I have a bad thermostat, or could this be a more serious issue? What kind of thermostat came stock? This is not a race car(except when I'm late for work). Should I go with a 180-190 degree thermostat? There seems to be alot of difference of opinion on that subject especially, so I'm a little confused.
 
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I sure that its one of your head gaskets leaking into the cylinders when running. Check your spark plugs and see what color they are. They should be light brown.
 

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check the weep hole for coolant after a run sounds like it might be a heater core
 

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Worst case scenario

mercurycapri said:
I sure that its one of your head gaskets leaking into the cylinders when running. Check your spark plugs and see what color they are. They should be light brown.
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OH man , don't tell me that. I dont know if the heads have ever been off the block, and right now I can't afford to have them decked to seal properly after the gaskets are replaced. What kind of damage can this do, as long as I keep fluid in it? If it has a higher temperature thermostat in it, should I put in a 160 degree thermostat to try and keep the block a little cooler? or will that just add more coolant to the mix?
 

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First, find out what the problem is. The thermostat would not be related to you losing coolant. Does the car ever smoke at all?

I don't know about Fox's having this problem, but the 5N95 cars are notorious for getting a small pin hole in the coolant reservoir and leaking (which can be harder to spot than most people think).


On the thermostat, I think the stocker is supposed to be something like 190*. Most run like a 180* stat in the summer months. DO NOT get the 160*! It can actually cause your car to overheat!
 

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Weep Hole?

Roland69 said:
check the weep hole for coolant after a run sounds like it might be a heater core
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This is a daily driver. And wouldnt a bad heater core leak out into the passenger side floor board?
 

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I think he may be referring to the weep hole on the water pump.
 

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that's what the weep hole is for...to drain the leaking coolant outside of the car when a core takes a dump. It's right under the passenger side header on the firewall it's a little small tube sticking out about 1/8 of an inch.
 

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ixnay on the 160-ay

SeventyMach1 said:
First, find out what the problem is. The thermostat would not be related to you losing coolant. Does the car ever smoke at all?

I don't know about Fox's having this problem, but the 5N95 cars are notorious for getting a small pin hole in the coolant reservoir and leaking (which can be harder to spot than most people think).


On the thermostat, I think the stocker is supposed to be something like 190*. Most run like a 180* stat in the summer months. DO NOT get the 160*! It can actually cause your car to overheat!
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Ok, but is how do I go about finding out what the problem is. I'm sure i can find a leak in the resorvoir, but what's the next step? yeah it smokes, but not steadily. light blue puffs. I've been assuming its oil,its usually present under hard acceleration or a cold start.
 

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SeventyMach1 said:
I think he may be referring to the weep hole on the water pump.
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Na there is a little hole in the firewall just for when the core leak's so it won't leak into the floor..Sometimes the hole gets pluged up and it goes on the floor anyway.
 

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check at night with a blue led light the coolant will glow a bright yellow......look around the P-side firewall at the little weep hole.
 

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OH yes The weep hole, of course.

Roland69 said:
that's what the weep hole is for...to drain the leaking coolant outside of the car when a core takes a dump. It's right under the passenger side header on the firewall it's a little small tube sticking out about 1/8 of an inch.
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First time i've heard of that. Thanks for the info. So obviously I havent checked that. what am I looking for, presence of moisture? Im guessing if the heater core is fine, the weep hole should be dry?
 

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s&k stangs said:
First time i've heard of that.
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Haha, me too. I know there is one for the water pump ... so I thought he was talking about that. S&K, you might want to go ahead & check out the water pump area while you're there, too. And yeah, blue smoke = oil.

BTW, I noticed you're in Monroe. Check out www.xtrememustangs.com if you get a chance.
 

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I had my coolant light come on every 1-2 weeks or so and I could'd find where it was going and thought I had blowen a H/G. But I went out at night with a little blue light (keychain) and found that I has coolant dripping out of that weep hole. Also do you have any fog on the passenger side of the windshield at night or when it's cooler out.
 

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79MACH, What part of NC are you in?
 

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s&k stangs said:
79MACH, What part of NC are you in?
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Hickory. I work in Charlotte, though. My boss man has us working in the Monroe area alot, too though .... as he's in Waxaw.
 

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I should also mention the weep hole is near the P-side header flange......I said it was near the header and I didn't say anything about the flange
 

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Thanks

You guys rock. As soon as I can determine the cause I'll update this thread and let you know how it works out. Thanks for all the info. This is why Mustang enthusiasts are so awesome!
 

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if we were ricers we would have told you it was the TB coolant tube on your SKUNK-2 throotle body
 

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I snaped a pic of the weep hole on my car I'll post it up later on for anyone who didn't know about that or where it is
 
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