Thinking of making "reasonable" turbo kit.. intrest?

invertmast

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Alright guys.. i've had numerous people from other sites ask me about building them a turbo kit or doing a writeup. I've been toying with this idea for about 3 months...

What would all you 96-04 GT guys think of a Single Turbo hot section for$1500 w/ tubular headers, and complete kits w/ a T-70 or 60-1 turbo for $3500-4000 minus fuel system?

If the owners of the site have a problem with me asking this question, please feel free to delete this thread and PM me so we can discuss. This isn't a advertisement, just a "testing the waters" type of thing.:nono:

What i want to know is.. How many of you would be willing to purchase on within the next 3 months w/ a 1 month MAX turn-around time. And how many would be interested in the complete kit, and how many interested in a hot section setup only.

the Single kit will be almost identical to what i've got now, It will just use a different set of custom tubular headers. V-band clamps on everything w/ your option of Mild steel, aluminized steel or stainless steel (stainless will be extra $$). I can offer JUST a hot section w/ headers and Y pipe to the turbo. Or i can do a full kit minus turbo stuff. or a COMPLETE kit. I can do 38mm or 44mm Wastegate flanges.

I'm looking at making approx. 700-800rwhp on my Single T-70 kit. If i dont get close to my goals, it will be removed jigs made and replaced by a Twin 61mm Kit. And then i'll be making jigs of the twin kit to begin selling them.

Here is what my kit looks like:
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Everything will be Tig Welded, and High Temp Paint Coated. IF i can find a local jet hot coater ( I've found 2 recently), i can have everything jet hot coated for extra. There are a few differences between the kit on my car and what i'll be selling.. 1. I will have the airfilter pointing the opposite direction on the turbo for more hot section/cold section clearance. 2. The downpipe will not be a full exhaust. It will only be about 15-30" long and the remainder of the exhaust will have to be done by an exhaust shop for differences in car setup reasons. 3. The turbo May be mounted where th battery is located requiring a battery relocation kit (which will not be included in the kit), but would like opinions on if you would want this or not.

The Goal is for me to make a Turbo kit available that is REASONABLE in price.. I'm not in this to make thousands of dollars, but i'm not going to barely break even on materials expenses either.. The turbo's will be from Master Power, and the Wastegates will be either Tial or a Tial knockoff that i am currently using w/ great success. BOV's will be buyers option. Or i can supply the hot section

IF yall have anything more specific, post up your questions. The only way i'm going to decide if i'm going to do this or not is if i get a VERY high intrest in the kits.


Like i said. this isn't an advertisement to sell them... just a testing the waters kind of think to get an idea on interest of a reasonably turbo kit.


All feedback and comments are highly encouraged wether good or bad.
 
Well, if I was going to spend the kind of coin a turbo kit requires I would go with a known and proven vendor such as MPH.

Additionally, I think you are going to find that the number of individuals who would actually be interested in your services are going to be very limited.

No offense, I wish you luck with your endeavor but I do not feel that is it financially feasible nor do I feel that you realize how much hassle having "customers" will be.

Also, are you capable of tuning the setup or would that be yet another vendor?

Good luck but I think your idea sucks on ice.
 
Well, if I was going to spend the kind of coin a turbo kit requires I would go with a known and proven vendor such as MPH.

Additionally, I think you are going to find that the number of individuals who would actually be interested in your services are going to be very limited.

No offense, I wish you luck with your endeavor but I do not feel that is it financially feasible nor do I feel that you realize how much hassle having "customers" will be.

Also, are you capable of tuning the setup or would that be yet another vendor?

Good luck but I think your idea sucks on ice.

HAHAHAA.. lol. thanks for the comments. I've had "customers" before and still have customers as i speak. I know what kind of hassel they can be, i deal with them everyday..
I understand most people would want to go with a well known vendor, but not everyone is capable of spending $6k+ on a turbo setup. And even they started off "un-known" in the beginning.
And if my setup produces decent numbers that would show that i somewhat know what i'm doing. :)

Tuning would NOT be done by me.. i dont have the services and i'm not trying to compete w/ MPH in that department (they are tuning my car).


Like i said.. just testing the waters, i haven't decided to do this yet. just figured i'd get some more opinions on the matter.
 
Alright well, I was being kinda rude because I was trying to save you from what I see as a huge mistake.

If you already have some experience running a business then maybe you have a better chance then I thought you did...
 
Kilgoure,
Its all good man. i didn't take it as rude at all. I was a supervisor at an international airport at the age of 19, and have been a supervisor at most of my jobs ever since i was old enough to work legally lol.

streetstang.. thats exactly what I am hoping for. :D
 
Its all about price for me. If a turbo kit can compare to the price of the S/C kits then everyone would be all over it, of course.

Depends of the total price of the system vs a Mongoose kit for example.
 
I'd be interested in a T3/T4 hybrid system. I'm not lookin for crazy power numbers, I just want somethin like 340-350whp. Of course this could be done even in NA trim, but that'd probably cost more money than going FI. And I'm lookin for something cheaper than a KB/Mongoose kit..It'd be nice if I can get everything said and done for $3k -ish. idk, maybe i'm asking too much.
 
I have been looking for a "realistic" turbo setup for ages. For mustangs, if you want just reasonable good power but don't want to spend a lot, it's pretty much only supercharge. Turbos seem to only be for high HP applications and are very expensive and unnecessary for me. I mean, I'm probably never looking to push 600 hp, ever. Too much work that won't be done to this car. But there is nothing about turbo setups that simply mean HIGH HP and EXPENSIVE! It's just how it is for mustangs so far.

I'd LOVE a 350-400 rwhp turbo setup.

I am CERTAIN if you can get a "kit" of some sort under $3900, say, $3500, that would be a magic number. I say $3500 to leave space for the tune. (Mongoose $3900 is what I'm referring to)
 
I would be interested with a legal document that includes warranty and you binding to it..warranty and word of mouth from somebody like Tim would *REALLY* get me interested for under 4k.
 
I have always liked turbo then supercharger. I am very interested on your setup and want to tell you that your are gifted by god . Not many people cause do the stuff you do. If you can make single turbo for 3000-4000, you will be making lot's of money and have lot's of guys wanting your turbo setup.

I love the way turbo makes power and sound, SWEETTTTTTTTTT
 
I have a few questions.

Are you going to redo the drivers side header to clear the oil filter?

How much ground clearance with that 3? inch down pipe?

Will you include the MAF? (I know you said - fuel injectors/pump)

Will you include an intercooler?

Good luck with it :nice: . We are SORTOF thinking about making a kit....but the problem is that I would sell the kit with the same things that I used on my car (GT pump, 42# injectors, intercooler, BA 2400 MAF, T bolt clamps, silicon couplers/reducers, silicon hoses, maybe even the E boost 2 so all the silicon hoses could be pre cut, ect..... It would just get VERY expencive to buy. Because we would spend a ton in parts.
 
just to give you guys an idea of the power i'm making untuned with the setup in the pictures above.
In 3rd gear w/ 3.55's in a IRS, and 14lbs of boost, i start spinning at 65mph and keep spinning until i shift into 4th, then once i get back on the gas i start spinning again.

This is with 5* of timing and a 10.5:1 air/fuel ratio, as i am untuned until the 5th of may.