this doesn't sound safe to me...

blascrw

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I emailed Mustangs unlimited to see what there take was on my tri-y fit problem...'65 with '65 engine mounts and the pitman arm hits the headers.


Hello,

Well when doing this procedure there is going to be the need for some modification to the part. The way to do it is to disconnect the center link on the car and then take a flame torch straight to the pitman arm. You should put a pipe over it so that there is no damage done and after you have the pitman arm red hot you have to start pulling down on it in order for the header to clear. If there is anything else that I can do for you please let me know. Thank you!

Demitri N.
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wuzfast

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And what about the rubber in the bushings? NO WAY !

 

zookeeper

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I would take the pitman arm off to do that, but otherwise it's perfectly safe. The pitman arm is a forging and as such a little heat and persuasion is perfectly acceptable. Just let it air cool (no water!) and it'll be fine.

 

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bending the pitman will change tie rod geomety in relation to the control arms givng you bump steer. i fought with this so bad after i did the granada swap on my falcon to the point where i gave up and did a mII conversion

 

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zookeeper said:

I would take the pitman arm off to do that, but otherwise it's perfectly safe. The pitman arm is a forging and as such a little heat and persuasion is perfectly acceptable. Just let it air cool (no water!) and it'll be fine.

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What about the bushings?

 

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yep

 

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nevin15 said:

What about the bushings?

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There are NO bushings in a pitman arm on a V8 Mustang. You are thinking of the idler arm. I would not do this anyway as it will mess up the steering geometry. It is a bad idea to fix a problem an ILL FITTING aftermarket part creates. I have never had Tri-Ys hit the pitman arm.

 

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agree 100%/. Dont eff up your steering to solve their problem. Modify the headers or return them.

 

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I put a set of Blackjack headers on my '65 nearly 29 years ago, and always had a problem witht he pitman arm hitting one of the tubes. It slightly increased my left turn turning radius, and the pitman put a small dent it the tube, but other than that it was fine so I just left it. Drove it for years with no problem.

 

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I have seen very few long tube headers on these things that did not require some type of adjustment with the big hammer. Work with the header, not your suspension parts!

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Agree with everyone on the BFH mod. When you make your first dent, it becomes a racing part.

 

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latamud said:

Agree with everyone on the BFH mod. When you make your first dent, it becomes a racing part.

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My driver side header must be qualified for drag racing then!

 

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blascrw said:

The way to do it is to disconnect the center link on the car and then take a flame torch straight to the pitman arm. You should put a pipe over it so that there is no damage done and after you have the pitman arm red hot you have to start pulling down on it in order for the header to clear.

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Not only is that dangerous, its downright stupid. By getting the pitman arm that hot, you'll probably seriously damage the steering box, not to mention weakening the arm itself. Maybe they'll get sued, who knows?

Like the others said; adjust the headers, not the car.

 

blascrw

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point taken...

I wasn't going to do what they suggested...

I have heard don't recall where that the '66 style engine mount setup would likely solve this as it raises the engine?

anyone know first hand?

plan to pull the engine & transmission in the next couple of weeks...

replace rear seal, detail the engine, install my aluminum intake & carb and swap the transmission.

so it would be an easy task to swap the mounts then...

Anyone??

Also anyone know who has best price on aluminum oil pan?

 

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66 mount

The 66 mount will raise the motor about 1".