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Engine Throwing codes 94, 33, 34, 44, and sporadic engine shutoff.

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    1993 5.0 code 33 code 34 code 44 code 94 help please lx surging idle checklist

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While using the Equus Ford OBD I code reader, after preforming the KOEO test and passing then preforming the KOER test I'm getting codes 33 ( EGR valve not opening properly (just replaced it today) and still getting that code why? Code 34 which is the same as 33, code 44 (thermactor air system fault) can you explain this in more detail for me? And code 94 (air diverter solenoid circuit fault) replacing tomorrow. I've checked my vacuum tube's and replaced the ones with obvious cracks which was only one that was going from the air diverter tree to the top of the EGR valve, the rest of the smog system looks fine to me and I don't hear any hissing (I also had to replace the smog pump recently because it broke). Also my salt and pepper 10 pin connectors looked to have some white semi liquid "grease" on only some of the pins, is that dielectric compound to prevent any electrical shorting? Or is that some kind of corrosion that I need to clean off? What can I clean the pins off with besides DEOXIT. Can I use some Isopropyl Alcohol I got lying around?
Now with all of that and to the best of my ability trying to following the thread "help me create the surging idle checklist" (even though my idle wont surge it will just fall to 0 over 3-5 seconds it doesn't wander up and down) thread and throwing almost enough parts at this issue to basically replace most of the car itself why am I still dying while driving at completely sporadic intervals only in the heat I could be driving in almost any condition and if it's hot outside it's almost a guarantee the car will die a couple of examples are dying while driving 75 miles an hour without changing the speed, and then driving for a 100 miles in the heat for it to die when I come to a stoplight. Recently died after going up a large hill and once I reached the downhill part and the engine died without me even realizing until I tried turning the wheel and realizing I lost power steering looking at my dash to me my speedometer and rpm's say 0's. When the engine dies and I pull off on the side of the road if I wait 30 min 9 out of 10 times I can start the engine and drive another 50 miles to home. If I don't wait long enough the engine will most likely crank once and might start but wont be able to stay running and die again. Sometimes when I know its about to die the rpms will start to go just fall and no matter how much gas I give it it will end up dying. It will so far only die on longer road trips more then an hour, I can drive around town making stops or to work just fine with no indicators of it dying at all.
If all else fails I would want to do a smog system delete, would this "fix" my issue? Can I delete the EGR valve as well? What about the TAB/TAD solenoid? I've seen that if I go this route I have to make sure that I have aftermarket catalytic converter exhausts otherwise there is some issue with the cats not working properly
https://www.corral.net/threads/smog-pump-delete-s.1254392/
So I would only need the mid-pipes correct? How do I go about making sure I get the right pipes if I go this route? Guy in the link said the only aftermarket pipes he knows of that work with the smog system delete is the Magnaflow spun-metallic cats. I would also get the idler pulley to replace the air pump to keep the stock belt length. also
Distributor
MAF
Throttle body
TPS
EGR Valve
EGR position sensor
O2 sensors
Spark plugs, gaped properly
Spark plug wires
Ignition coil
IAC
Tfi
Smog pump
A/c compressor
Radiator
Alternator
Battery
fuel filter

These items below are not 100% sure but ive been told they were replaced
new fuel pump
fuel lines
I'm not concerned with losing or gaining HP I just want the damn thing to run and not die on me anymore its my only car and my daily. Also Is this really the cause of me dying while driving in the heat??? The EGR valve not functioning or some vacuum solenoid not getting vacuum really the culprit for me dying on the side of the road just seems ludicrous to me.
 
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That was a long read! Can you explain in detail what happens with your sporadic shutoffs? Is it right away, or after driving awhile? Does it start right up or hard to start? We will go over you error codes after you follow up.
 

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89ripper said:
That was a long read! Can you explain in detail what happens with your sporadic shutoffs? Is it right away, or after driving awhile? Does it start right up or hard to start? We will go over you error codes after you follow up.
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It’ll only die after driving for 45 min to an hour, only if it’s hot over 75 degrees. When it dies theres a loss of power that happens over 7 seconds as the rpm’s go lower and lower if you slam on the accelerator rpm’s will negligibly rise giving no additional power to the wheels and the engine will inevitably die while driving on the highway going 75 mph. As one example. Another situation where it has typically died at is while coming to a stop so after driving for more then an hour while it was over 80 degrees over 100 miles nonstop on the highway at 75 mph then coming to a stoplight it died right as I came to a stop. That’s why it’s so sporadic I could drive a long distance for a long time at high degrees and it won’t die until I come to a stop, or it could just driving into town 30 min away then when trying to go back home and after getting halfway back it’ll die while going 75 mph. Now after dying I can wait 30 min turn it back on and turn the engine over and drive home with no other indicators of it dying on me again. If I don’t wait 30 min after it dies to try and turn it on again right away or after 10 or 20 min I might get a single crank but then nothing else or if miraculously it does start the rpm’s will get to about 800 then drop over 2 seconds to die. To guarantee it’ll start I’ll wait another 30 min from a start attempt and be good to go. Recently I drove an hour and half away from home up a mountain I did notice a different feel from the engine after driving up the hill for about 10 min but then after getting over the top it died without me even knowing it honestly until I tried steering the wheel a little bit and noticed I didn’t have any power steering looked down and saw zeros on the speedometer and rpm’s. But was able to wait 30 min and start it back up again and get home without it dying again driving home another hour and half.
 

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Sounds like a tfi issue. I understand you replaced it but they are known to be bad out of the box. Do you have a tester? Not a bad investment to get one and have a spare one on hand.
 

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89ripper said:
Sounds like a tfi issue. I understand you replaced it but they are known to be bad out of the box. Do you have a tester? Not a bad investment to get one and have a spare one on hand.
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I'll definitely get one now can you link me to one you suggest?

Also is the tfi just overheating?
 

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Link for tfi tester

Thats the thing Ryu. We used to recommend "motorcraft" tfis but a lot of these arent motorcraft and just some chinese junk out of the box.

I had tfi problems about 15 years ago and went through a few before the one on my car now. Its a "wells", just happened to check last month because had forgotten about it.

I recommended the tester to you so you can at least rule that out, it certainly sounds like your issue. They get hot and cause the car to shutoff, many on here in fact relocate them away from distributor. Just do a search for tfi problems, youll see what im talking about.
 

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Wait, you didn’t notice it died until you felt the lack of power steering and the tach and speedo both read zero? Does the car have an aftermarket instrument panel because our speedos are mechanical.
 

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AeroCoupe said:
Wait, you didn’t notice it died until you felt the lack of power steering and the tach and speedo both read zero? Does the car have an aftermarket instrument panel because our speedos are mechanical.
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No aftermarket instrument panel, I think it was just because I was coasting downhill not on the accelerator pretty well straight and when I finally did come to a turn I saw the steering wheel was difficult to turn.
 

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Pardon Our Interruption...

Link for tfi tester

Thats the thing Ryu. We used to recommend "motorcraft" tfis but a lot of these arent motorcraft and just some chinese junk out of the box.

I had tfi problems about 15 years ago and went through a few before the one on my car now. Its a "wells", just happened to check last month because had forgotten about it.

I recommended the tester to you so you can at least rule that out, it certainly sounds like your issue. They get hot and cause the car to shutoff, many on here in fact relocate them away from distributor. Just do a search for tfi problems, youll see what im talking about.
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Gotcha thank you so what about the other codes?
 

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Well unless you had huge vacuum leaks I dont believe would cause your shutdowns. Are you looking into how to repair/address them? I can post up links.
 

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Well unless you had huge vacuum leaks I dont believe would cause your shutdowns. Are you looking into how to repair/address them? I can post up links.
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I will definitely take a look at those links thank you.

And I was looking into making a smoke machine to try to see if I had any vacuum leaks
 

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Code 33:

Thread 'Fix Code 33'

Apr 20, 2009
So I've got a code 33 (along with a 41 and 91 which are both for the o2 sensors which I'm fixing in a few days). Something about the EGR valve position. What can I do to fix this?
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Thread 'code 34, EGR, Slightly Off Idle'

Jul 21, 2008
hey guys,as some of you stangnet regulars should know i just went through a headache for my bolt on combo....well its all done and anyways, i got it running decent but every blue moon it will lope idle about 100-200 rpms, it might come it might go,i pulled codes 34 and neutral safety circuit failure(aod to t-5 swap)

well code 34 is egr related, i cant remember exactly off the top of my head.....
and after reading the idle surge list, this could be a culprit, so i statrted it up and guess what it was idling perfect, but i know it will come back, so i pulled the vacuum line off...
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94/44:

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Thread 'Code 94/44 AGAIN!'

Jun 8, 2010
I have a 90 LX, 5.0, that has had a 94/44 error code for a couple of months. I think I've done all the diagnostics correctly, but I just can't solve this one. I've replaced the smog pump because it had a bad bearing. I've tested both solenoids during a KOER test and both have voltage switching during the test. Both are switching vacuum. If I disconnect the large, black hoses, I find lots of air coming out of the pump and that it switches at both valves during the test. Everything appears to be operating correctly. Out of exasperation, I changed the O2 sensors in the hope that they...
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I made sure to include links that featured Jrichker (RIP) whom had a wealth of knowledge on our cars and could explain things way better than I ever could.
 
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