TIE ROD are pitched UP

1fast03pony · Mar 28, 2004

TIE RODS are pitched UP

Noticed since I lowered my car with H&R SS springs that my tie rods are pitched up from the rack. This is not good, so how do i get them to be level with the rack again? Will a bumpsteer make the rods straight again?

olbob · Mar 28, 2004

You could try offset bushings..
bob

OD · Mar 28, 2004

you need the bump steer kit..
how much lower is the car now? i have eibachs and didnt need a bump steer kit.. it lowered it about 1.5", but i did need caster camber plates to get it properly aligned.

dlsdj · Mar 28, 2004

How Much of a Pitch?

I've got Steeda Sports and it lowered my front end around 1 1/4. My tie rods are also pitched up a bit but don't think that's a problem. Go look at any stock mustang and see what the tie rods look like, I think you will find they all look that way!

1fast03pony · Mar 28, 2004

dlsdj said:
I've got Steeda Sports and it lowered my front end around 1 1/4. My tie rods are also pitched up a bit but don't think that's a problem. Go look at any stock mustang and see what the tie rods look like, I think you will find they all look that way!

it lowered it a good 1.75 in the front but i suspect that the rack is sustaining alot of stress because the tie rods barely have any more movement in the upward position. I think thats what is making the noise i hear in my front end over bumps. Im overextending the tie rods upward and they are clunking in the rack. when my car was stock the tie rods were straight... and im wondering if the bumpsteer will help.

prsrizdgt · Mar 29, 2004

Lowered mine about 1.5 this weekend with "B" springs, and I also noticed that the tie rods had a heckuva lot of angle. When I jack the body back up the same amount by putting a floor jack under the center cross member, they still are angled up some. I hadn't heard other people mentioning that it was a problem when they drove their lowered cars, so I didn't plan on worring about it. The issue is that it seems like if you go past 1.5 inches, it brings more areas of concern into the picture. If it were me and I went that low, I would use the rack bushings as a precaution anyway since they are so cheap.
Good luck......By the way, what brand of C/C plates are you going with?

PEWTERPONY · Mar 29, 2004

I lowered mine 1.5 with the Prokit and using the Steeda cc plates. They are clunking and I'm replacing them with the stock ones......I heard that you can use stock if you don't go over two inches??? Correct???

prsrizdgt · Mar 29, 2004

I know some companies like the one that says they are Rousch springs say that if you do not go more than 2 inches you do not need them, but I think that is a sales tactic. I can look at mine with 1.5 inches drop and with only a small amount of possible movement left in the stock plates, I don't think they will remove the neg camber I have now. Probably by tomorrow I will make the choice to buy a set.....but which set is the question.

prsrizdgt · Mar 29, 2004

PewterPony....are you sure its the Steeda plates clunking? Man it seems like alot of people complain about new noises after lowering their cars, but most can't tell where it is coming from.

PEWTERPONY · Mar 29, 2004

Prsiz...

I can hear them clunk. I can feel them just above the hood line clunking lol. My mustang guy says its the CC plates (they are bad).....but I don't like the way they look either

03gtmustang · Mar 29, 2004

1fast03pony said:
Noticed since I lowered my car with H&R SS springs that my tie rods are pitched up from the rack. This is not good, so how do i get them to be level with the rack again? Will a bumpsteer make the rods straight again?

Do you have any pictures of the tie rods?

01LaserRedCobra · Apr 9, 2004

prsrizdgt said:
Lowered mine about 1.5 this weekend with "B" springs, and I also noticed that the tie rods had a heckuva lot of angle. When I jack the body back up the same amount by putting a floor jack under the center cross member, they still are angled up some. I hadn't heard other people mentioning that it was a problem when they drove their lowered cars, so I didn't plan on worring about it. The issue is that it seems like if you go past 1.5 inches, it brings more areas of concern into the picture. If it were me and I went that low, I would use the rack bushings as a precaution anyway since they are so cheap.
Good luck......By the way, what brand of C/C plates are you going with?

You should not use steering rack bushings on a stock k-member to change the geometry... Here is a statement from Maximum Motorsports regarding Bumpsteer...

There is a myth that the tie rod should be kept parallel to
the ground to avoid bumpsteer. THIS IS NOT TRUE! What
IS required, is that the tie rod be kept parallel to the lower
control arm so that as the suspension moves, the arc of
the ball joint and the arc of the tie rod end do not cause
any steering input to the spindle. As you lower your car,
the tie rod end and the lower control arm move together,
staying parallel. If you install offset rack bushings on a
stock geometry K-member, you are making the tie rod end
and the lower control arm NOT parallel. You will actually
CREATE bumpsteer by installing offset rack bushings on a
stock K-member.

Hope this helps....

Thanks,

millatime · Apr 9, 2004

prsrizdgt said:
I know some companies like the one that says they are Rousch springs say that if you do not go more than 2 inches you do not need them, but I think that is a sales tactic. I can look at mine with 1.5 inches drop and with only a small amount of possible movement left in the stock plates, I don't think they will remove the neg camber I have now. Probably by tomorrow I will make the choice to buy a set.....but which set is the question.

do yourself a favor and let whoever does the alignment be the judge as to whether or not you need new c/c plates

4.6_02_Black_GT · Apr 9, 2004

Fantasy pony...

Bump steer kit from Steeda... notice in the pic how the hemien joint is positioned lower than where the stock steering knuckle would have been. Notice also you can move the spacers around and raise or lower the angle of the tie rod shaft.

olbob · Apr 9, 2004

Red Cobra,
That sounds like good information....
bob

1fast03pony · Apr 10, 2004

prsrizdgt said:
PewterPony....are you sure its the Steeda plates clunking? Man it seems like alot of people complain about new noises after lowering their cars, but most can't tell where it is coming from.

think about it. if the rods are pitched up ALREADY then where else do they have room to travel when hitting bumps? they are being forced up and hitting inside the rack, causing the clunk. I believe the bumpsteer kit straightens the tie rods in relation to the RACK so this way it has way more room to travel upward when hitting bumps. Im 99% sure this is the problem and ill let you all know tomorrow when i install this kit.

-Jon

53BigDog · Apr 11, 2004

I used Steeda Bumpsteer kit with my Steeda Sports Springs Mod

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