Torque Boxes ?

The purpose of the Wild Rides is replacement without having to destroy half the car to do it or measure your own angles with a chassis jig.

Ill disagree there, even with the wild rides S box, it should be installed by someone that can properly square it to the chassis the same way any of the other torque box replacements would be installed. The same measurement methods should be done on both by someone who has a clue or the car is never going to be right.
 
Ill disagree there, even with the wild rides S box, it should be installed by someone that can properly square it to the chassis the same way any of the other torque box replacements would be installed. The same measurement methods should be done on both by someone who has a clue or the car is never going to be right.

Negative.... I've done two and reasonable care is all that either one needed. I'll be to first to tell ya.... I do not have a jig, a lift, or measuring tools that are much more complex than a tape measure.

As per Wild Rides:

The UPPER S-BOX:

INVENTED by WILD RIDES—- The S-Box —- ADJUSTABLE UPPER CHASSIS MOUNT / REPAIR KIT FOR SEVERELY DAMAGED UPPER CONTROL ARM MOUNTING POINTS. This kit completely replaces both upper mounts and the uni-body cross member they are attached to. Multiple holes in our replacement box allows for multiple instant center changes for the ultimate in rear suspension tuning abilities. Weather you have already suffered a catastrophic failure or just want to upgrade to the first and only Bullet Proof Adjustable rear upper control arm mount, this kit is for you. Installs in 4 hours using; Basic hand tools, drill, sawzall and an air hammer will help.

It is not necessary to do all of that with their S-Box unless you're doing some mod that is outside of the norm for Fox or SN95.

What I do have is a garage floor, a jack, and some stands. :D

The entire reason that I like this kit (I understand very well that other kits may be better) is that this is the DIY version. Even Noobz can do it. O_o
 
Negative.... I've done two and reasonable care is all that either one needed. I'll be to first to tell ya.... I do not have a jig, a lift, or measuring tools that are much more complex than a tape measure.

As per Wild Rides:



It is not necessary to do all of that with their S-Box unless you're doing some mod that is outside of the norm for Fox or SN95.

What I do have is a garage floor, a jack, and some stands. :D

The entire reason that I like this kit (I understand very well that other kits may be better) is that this is the DIY version. Even Noobz can do it. o_O
Ever seen one installed off a few 1/16th's from square?

I have

That car went into the wall on the first pass out

The owner who installed it himself said "I thought it was close enough"

WRONG!

While a jig isn't "required" it behooves the installer to take a metric ton of measurements and plot the points down the the ground with a plumb bob and string line at the very least
 
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Ever seen one installed off a few 1/16th's from square?

I have

That car went into the wall on the first pass out

The owner who installed it himself said "I thought it was close enough"

WRONG!

While a jig isn't "required" it behooves the installer to take a metric ton of measurements and plot the points down the the ground with a plumb bob and string line at the very least


What I have done was to have the thrust alignment checked as the front was being adjusted. You guys are also aware that my time at the track has been minimal. Maybe a weekend every couple of years.

You guys that are actually racing??? Yep.... I completely understand the additional measures.
 
What I have done was to have the thrust alignment checked as the front was being adjusted. You guys are also aware that my time at the track has been minimal. Maybe a weekend every couple of years.

You guys that are actually racing??? Yep.... I completely understand the additional measures.
We go to the track to BBQ... @srtthis @TOOLOW91
We happen to race the car from time to time while we are there bbq'ing. "Actually racing" requires effort that we normally don't exude. :p:D:cool:
 
Why would someone install an S-box on a car and not race it?
To repair torn uppers. Stock ones will tear a hole in the floor behind the rear seat if you let it get bad.
It's not a project I think many want to really do, but it's one of very few off the shelf solutions for fixing the uppers.
Beats paying a chassis shop a fortune. Even worse being at their mercy to fix your car. Chassis guys are worse than paint shops for timely work.

The other solutions is a torque arm from MM or griggs. Which is probably where I would put the money.
 
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To repair torn uppers. Stock ones will tear a hole in the floor behind the rear seat if you let it get bad.
It's not a project I think many want to really do, but it's one of very few off the shelf solutions for fixing the uppers.
Beats paying a chassis shop a fortune. Even worse being at their mercy to fix your car. Chassis guys are worse than paint shops for timely work.

The other solutions is a torque arm from MM or griggs. Which is probably where I would put the money.
When you say torque arm all I hear is Camaro :doh:
 
I'm the guy who sets his floor mats in with a vernier. My cars do not leave the driveway unless the tires pressures on the left and right are not within 1 psi of each other. I rebuild robots for a living so I definately like to square things up before welding them in BUT if a car drives straight into a wall it's not because and upper arm mount was 1/16" out.
 
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I'm the guy who sets his floor mats in with a vernier. My cars do not leave the driveway unless the tires pressures on the left and right are not within 1 psi of each other. I rebuild robots for a living so I definately like to square things up before welding them in BUT if a car drives straight into a wall it's not because and upper arm mount was 1/16" out.


LOL, that's true but I think we all know he was illustrating a point. :)