Track events = no car insurance?

cradicg

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Oct 9, 2005
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I am hoping some of you out there can help with a track participation versus auto insurance dilemma. If you would rather not hear me rant on and on about how peeved this lady at my insurance company made me today, here is my question in a nutshell.

Is there an insurance company that will allow you to participate in legitimate, club organized track events and not cancel your public road insurance coverage? I know that no one will cover your car ON a track. I just want public road coverage to and from the track without having to lie and say I have never been to a track.

And now I will vent some steam…:fuss: I FINALLY have my Cobra in great running order, so I thought about doing some open track events. Nothing serious, just a good time in a safe environment. I already know from previous performance cars I’ve owned that my insurance company doesn’t cover “racing”. I don’t know of any major company that does.
Reading over some guidelines for an upcoming event, it states that drivers are personally responsible for damage to track property. Being new, the last thing I want is to wipe out a hot dog stand and owe $$$.
I called my long-time insurance provider to enquire about an umbrella policy. Maybe that would encompass any personal liability that, God forbid, may arise. The answer was no. That quickly turned into an ugly auto insurance debate. The rep kept telling me repeatedly that racing was not covered. I in turn told her I already know that, and I just want to know that if I did put my car on a track, would it affect my policy? I was lectured like she was my mother about how racing was dangerous, and that she would have to make a note on my policy that I intended on racing my Mustang. ALL I ASKED WAS A QUESTION! WTF? I just wanted to know IF I did go to a track, would it affect my policy? Eventually, I got transferred to an under writer. They said if my car ever went on a track for any reason, they could no longer insure my car. That sucks. OK, so no track events until I can find alternative coverage.
Since my annual mileage is low, I called the collector auto policy that insured my high $$$ 88 5.0. After going through all the fine print of can and can’t, he states that “TIMED” driving events are not allowed. Well, what I want to do isn’t timed. So what does my dumba$$ do? I ask about HPDE’s. Now they want web links to all my clubs and any events that I might THINK about doing before they decide on IF I can have a collector’s policy.
If feel like I’m trapped in a B-version rip off of Minority Report. I am being penalized for something I THOUGHT about doing. Why does doing the right thing and being honest up front bring so much grief?
So as it stands, if I participate in organized events, with rigid safety guidelines and controlled environments; I will lose my insurance coverage. If I just street race (or speed on a public road in general) with NO extra safety gear required, an easily circumvented safety inspection (if even required by the state) with unknown road conditions and random traffic; that’s OK as long as I don’t get caught. If I get caught, then I go to jail; lose my license and my insurance policy. It seems as though I am damned if do and damned if I don’t.
What do insurance companies think Viper, Z06, 911 and GT500 owners are doing with their cars? Driving to church on Sundays? I think you are far more likely to die in an everyday accident than during a legitimate track event. Thousands of people are taking their street cars to tracks every year, so there must be something out there that will work for me!:fuss:
Well, I feel a bit better now. If you made it this far, thanks for listening. If you have any info or advice, I’m all ears. Until then, I’m stuck enjoying my car in limited capacities. Not to say that’s all bad, but come on. I might as well have a 4 gigahertz CPU and a 5 year old video card in my computer!:Track:
 
Not sure

Not sure what to tell ya. I have never mentioned to my insurance agent that I race autocross. I don't expect to be covered while autocrossing, but since it's on a closed track and most speeds are 50mph or less I really don't see much of a risk (except for spending money on brakes, tires and alignments :D ) The only thing around me to hit are cones... :shrug: Seems pretty safe to me.

I don't ever plan to bring it up with them either. I would expect to hear the same kind of thing you are hearing if I did.
 
umm, unless you get in an accident at the track, there is no reason the insurance company has to know how you drive your car. like you said, its impossible for any insurance company to cover you if you crash at the track, however, just cause you drive at the track does not give them the right to cancel your coverage, then again, its really not something you bring up with your agent, "Yeah at SCCA last week......"

If your car is used in any event, and something happens, its not covered, no matter what speeds or how safe you think it is. If you crash on the track, i wouldnt even bother to call my insurance, id tow it home and figure it out myself, cause theyll drop you the second they hear you got a scratch at the strip.
 
I was talking about HPDE events with my insurance agent about 3 months ago when I bought my Cobra. He brought it up. He races his Shelby Cobra replica and he invited me to bring my Cobra to a couple of events this year. It is nice to have an insurance agent that is a car guy.