Trying to figure out whether this car is bs or not?

ganador01 · Jul 29, 2004

I am looking at a 1993 Mustang Gt. The car was supposedly built professionally by Alternative Automotive (place in michigan i think)a little over a year ago. Ok so this guy bought this car from another guy who had this work done. He is getting me receipts right now for all this work. He thinks it should be in the 400+ hp range. I am wondering if this is bs or what? What kinda power should this setup be making and what kind of times. I am really close to sealing this deal so I don't want to be had. I plan to get it dynotuned immediately on purchase to make sure but, i don't want to purchase this car without some sort of reassurance. Btw, I am not paying cash for this car, it is a trade with another car I already own.(plus a little cash)

93 mustang GT
Engine (7,000 miles on all of it)
-347 Stroker
-Forged internals
10-5:1 compression ratio
Diamond racing forged pistons& new rings
eagle forged connectting rods
fms 24lb injectors
c&l maf
bore on new shortblock that was hardened and heat tested
all metal gaskets with head studs

-Forged Crank
-Eldlebrock intake
-Edlebrock Heads with an additonal $1300 in port and valve work
-x-cam
-BBk T-body, headers, off-road pipe
-usd pullies
-magnecore wires
-4 core radiator
-upgraded fuel system
-Custom Dyno
-plus more

Transmisson (5,000 miles on it)
-Tremec 3550 5sp
-Stage 3 clutch
-Pro 5.0 shifter

Suspension (5,5000 miles on it)
-Mach 1 shocks
-Mach 1 Struts
-Ford springs
-subframe connectors
-crossmember for engine BBK
-Brand new Chrome Cobra R rim's with Nitto Tires, 255/17 up front, 275,17 in the rear.

Rearend (5,000 miles on it)
3:55 gear with t-lok

Interior
-Syn. Leather racing seats (Black--Very nice seats, brand New)
-Mustang trim door sills, chrome
-Billet interior trim
-Mustang logo floor mats
-pioneer premier cd player w/grapic display9 Brand new
-pioneer surrond sound, and clarion

mustangsquared · Jul 29, 2004

I would guess 360-380 RWP...what head work, what type of intake? that would make a difference.

ganador01 · Jul 29, 2004

mustangsquared said:
I would guess 360-380 RWP...what head work, what type of intake? that would make a difference.

well all he gave me so far was edlebroke...i mean edlebrock intake...and he spoke of headwork. he's not the original owner so im working on getting all the exact details from him. If he decided he wants to do this deal, I will get all the exact parts that are in it.

maverick0716 · Jul 29, 2004

Yeah, if those heads are actually ported and it has bigger valves and such, then I would guess somewhere in the 370-385 rwhp range.

ganador01 · Jul 29, 2004

what is a 360-400 rwhp 93 good for with a good driver (times wise?) low 13's? high 12's?

mustangsquared · Jul 29, 2004

LOw 12's, maybe high 11's...with a ***** hot launch and power shifts (along with good driver)

ganador01 · Jul 29, 2004

whoops...accidently deleted this post...oh well..

cjman15 · Jul 29, 2004

for sure, could prolly break into a 12

ganador01 · Jul 29, 2004

cjman15 said:
for sure, could prolly break into a 12

well im not a good driver. (ive driven a 200 hp, 275 tq, full throttle launching 3 speed automatic my entire life...lol. Not a 400 hp 500 tq 5 speed...i can drive a 5 speed well...but i don't think ill make any great times until i get a lot of track time in.

Michael Yount · Jul 29, 2004

But here's the deal - unless you require a dyno run of the seller before buying, and make your purchase offer contingent on the outcome, you're gonna have to take some risk on this thing. The fact is, you can't even tell if it's a 347 from the outside of the engine - it could be a standard 302 with Edelbrock components. Receipts are fine - but they can be fabricated too. I'm not suggesting that you not go forward -- just know that there's no way to absolutely assure you're getting what you think you are. At some point you're operating on trust that what the other person is telling you is how it is. And once you've decided you're going forward - then it's your baby, unless you make other provisions in a purchase agreement.

GTPhreak · Jul 29, 2004

11s or 12s...

ganador01 · Jul 29, 2004

Michael Yount said:
But here's the deal - unless you require a dyno run of the seller before buying, and make your purchase offer contingent on the outcome, you're gonna have to take some risk on this thing. The fact is, you can't even tell if it's a 347 from the outside of the engine - it could be a standard 302 with Edelbrock components. Receipts are fine - but they can be fabricated too. I'm not suggesting that you not go forward -- just know that there's no way to absolutely assure you're getting what you think you are. At some point you're operating on trust that what the other person is telling you is how it is. And once you've decided you're going forward - then it's your baby, unless you make other provisions in a purchase agreement.

well this guy has been on the message boards for a while. Hes not a newb and he seems trustworthy enough. I will add some provisions to our agreement that states that this car either puts out some nice hp numbers or that he has to pay to get everything back like it was...

Michael Yount · Jul 29, 2004

Don't be surprised if he rejects your offer with that contingency - I wouldn't accept it as a seller. However, his reputation is probably the most important thing - if that's solid, then you have little to worry about.

ganador01 · Jul 29, 2004

Michael Yount said:
Don't be surprised if he rejects your offer with that contingency - I wouldn't accept it as a seller. However, his reputation is probably the most important thing - if that's solid, then you have little to worry about.

well...he accepted my offer so we will just see what happens..

Michael Yount · Jul 29, 2004

In writing?

ganador01 · Jul 29, 2004

Michael Yount said:
In writing?

yes in writing...but im going to get it certified....

shttygtstang · Jul 29, 2004

i say put it on the dyno first then go through it like a fine tooth comb

Michael Yount · Jul 29, 2004

Cool deal - it looks like it's going to be fun!

ganador01 · Jul 29, 2004

shttygtstang said:
i say put it on the dyno first then go through it like a fine tooth comb

ill see if i can't get that to happen....but id prefer to do the dyno myself...that way, i would know the results are true...

Michael Yount · Jul 29, 2004

I guess I was thinkin' you wouldn't have to dyno it yourself - you'd just have to be there when he did. But maybe that's a geographic challenge.

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