Turbos galore!!!

Chern_889 · Mar 25, 2009

Whats happenin guys? Ive bin doin alot of researching(i really need a girlfriend) and i think im hooked on turboing my car. I know for a fact that it isnt going to happen this year, but would like to plan on it down the road and get my car ready in the mean time with supporting mods. I know how turbo systems work and have worked around them with friends cars(imports, psshhh), and ive owned a Pontiac Firefly, Turbo 3 baby!!

My biggest concern is not the install of a kit, but the tuning aspect. I live no where close to any sort of tuning facility and there is only one public access dyno in my whole province, and i would really like to tackle this one on my own. My question is how have others done it? Anderson PMS, TwEECer, other piggy backs? Is it possible to just throw in a Blow through specific MAF to get me running easily? AEM is out of the question, way out of my budget and above my head for a first time tuner.

Experts, Opinionators, non-experts, naysayers and haters please chime in

This is the kit i would probably go with, looks somewhat quality, totally complete, good customer support(owner is frequent on moddedmustangs.com) and most importantly the price is right for an entry level guy like me.

BoostBrothers.com :: By Part Type :: Turbo Kits :: 1994-1995 Mustang Single Turbo Kit

This kit includes EVERYTHING YOU NEED:

Left Stainless 94-95 GT 5.0 Header, V-Band termination, large diameter
Right Stainless 94-95 GT 5.0 Header, V-Band termination, large diameter
Stainless crossover pipe with v-band termination, stainless braided flex, 3" diameter
Stainless down pipe with 3 02 sensor bungs - retain stock 02 sensors and add Wideband Sensor
Stainless mid pipe, 3 bolt flanged
Stainless splitter cat delete pipe - bolts to stock or aftermarket catback exhaust system
3x V-band (Turbo to DP, crossover to headers)
BoostBrothers Custom Trim T67 -- 730WHP at 26PSI -- 4" inlet
38MM Tial Type wastegate - 6 psi spring installed (we can supply alternate springs at your request)
50mm V-Band Mount Tial Type BOV
MIRROR POLISHED Intercooler piping - all ends bead rolled - couplers will not pop off
All couplers are supplied - high quality nylon reinforced silicone, not rubber junk
Stainless T-Bolt clamps for all clamps
EGR Block off plate
Hardware
turbo mounting hardware
Alloy Steel reduced head diameter header bolts
Exhaust bolts to stock catback
Downpipe exh clamps
FMIC hardware
FMIC mounting brackets
All Oil line fittings
tee fittings
supply barbs
drain barbs
AN fittings
oil supply flanges
more.....
High quality braided stainless oil supply line - will not crack, break or burst
High quality oil drain line - will not melt, kink or weep
Large Bar and Plate FMIC 31x3x12
installation tools are included:
Oil Pan piercing tool
Oil Pan NPT TAP

they have a kit currently on Ebay
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1994-1995-5-0-MUSTANG-GT-TURBO-KIT-94-95-sn95_W0QQitemZ380112579889QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMotors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories?hash=item380112579889&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245&_trkparms=72%3A1171%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318

P.s. I am NOT advertising for these guys at all, if this is against the rules, please remove the ad-ness

P.s.s Pic of aformentioned TURBO 3!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Baby blue FTW!!!!!!!!!!

Adam95GT · Mar 25, 2009

personally now this is just me..... I would not even mess around with boost if there is no way of tuning the car.... IF you dont have enough money for an AEM set up or other tuning device( tweecer rt), i dont think there is any way to pull the turbo set up off.... considering you do not have money for a tuning solution you probably dont have money for the other little odds and ends that will pop up during installation, which they will....to be safe.... id wait till you had some more cash saved up... but again this is just my opinion so take it FWIW

Chern_889 · Mar 25, 2009

Im not saying i dont have money for a turning solution, im just asking peoples opinions on what they think, i would love to buy the TwEECer RT now and get used to it, if i know its a viable tune solution for down the road

nmcgrawj · Mar 25, 2009

If AEM is above your head....then the tweecer will be also.

I say get the PMS, wideband, software to datalog and a MAP (the PMS has boost tables).

You can start with a safe FAT tune and dial it in as you get more comfortable.

If you bought that stuff new, its over $1,000. But look for deals on the classifieds. Problem is that its tough finding a 94-95 PMS for sale.

Black Stampede · Mar 25, 2009

What brand is the turbo? Maybe it will turn out to be junk?

99FiveOh · Mar 25, 2009

The kit looks pretty nice, but it'll only be worth that kind of coin if it's a name brand turbo. Otherwise you can piece that together for alot less.

Black Stampede · Mar 25, 2009

You still gotta get injectors, maf, and a fuel pump.

95_5.0@15 · Mar 25, 2009

From what all the people at Theturboforums.com say.... boost brothers is garbage.

Chern_889 · Mar 25, 2009

nmcgrawj said:
If AEM is above your head....then the tweecer will be also.

I say get the PMS, wideband, software to datalog and a MAP (the PMS has boost tables).

You can start with a safe FAT tune and dial it in as you get more comfortable.

If you bought that stuff new, its over $1,000. But look for deals on the classifieds. Problem is that its tough finding a 94-95 PMS for sale.

I like the looks of the PMS, i guess i shouldnt have said its above my head, but its a big jump to go from no tuning expierence, straight into AEM. I think TwEECer is do-able, i would just have to learn it, thats all, i figure i am capable of that

Black Stampede said:
What brand is the turbo? Maybe it will turn out to be junk?

They say its an "custom" turbo, to me that means chinese. But if it holds together, than why not ive read of some good expierences with no name turbos, but, and this is a big but, there are lots of bad expierences also, a Masterpower is only 600bones away

The_Mustang said:
The kit looks pretty nice, but it'll only be worth that kind of coin if it's a name brand turbo. Otherwise you can piece that together for alot less.

The going price for that kit is 1700shipped right now, and i think i would have somewhat of a tough time matching that price, although not impossible. The big thing for me being in Canada is convience, if i have to piece together 10 different items, that means i have to pay the dollar difference, shipping, duty and taxes on 10 different items to get them across the border

Black Stampede said:
You still gotta get injectors, maf, and a fuel pump.

Thats why im planning this for down the road, i plan to upgrade my fuel system over the coming summer. I want to plan around building a turbo car so i dont pay double in the end, I.E buying two sets of injectors and proper MAFs for said injectors. Whereas i can buy a tuning platform, and run my car with say 42lb injectors naturaly aspirated, and still run the same inj. with boost.

thanks for the opinions so far, keep em comin

Chern_889 · Mar 26, 2009

95_5.0@15 said:
From what all the people at Theturboforums.com say.... boost brothers is garbage.

Only because the guy from B&G is a regular there and boost brothers is a direct competitor. Not saying his product is bad or anything, he makes great stuff and tons of people are happy.He is another viable kit that i am considering

Black Stampede · Mar 26, 2009

Well if even you are unsure of the quality of the turbo its probably not a great idea. I mean you did say "if" it holds together. Not too promising.

Good mindset though to plan it and set your car up right before you dive in.

95_5.0@15 · Mar 26, 2009

Chern_889 said:
Only because the guy from B&G is a regular there and boost brothers is a direct competitor. Not saying his product is bad or anything, he makes great stuff and tons of people are happy.He is another viable kit that i am considering

ehhhhh I dont know man, I have heard it elsewhere but I just said theturboforums cuz more people know that one

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