Tweecer V1.30 Cal Edit Question

[final5-0]

I use V1.20 Cal Edit so would one of you guys who use the latest 1.30 version be so kind to give me a little help.

I can't view the latest Cal Con data logs that have a .db file name ext with MS Excell. I have no probs with the older logs that have a .dbf ext.

Can you 1.30 guys view your logs with Excell?

btw ...... I use Excell 2000 ... maybe its too old for the newer logs

Later
Grady

 

[blksn955.o]

I run 1.3 but I dont have excell on the laptop, I use eec annalizer to view the logs. I have excell on the desktop but dont have tweecer installed anymore as a virus made us wipe our HD. If you want to PM or e-mail me a log I can see if it works on the windows ME excell.

wish I could be of more help.

 

[final5-0]

I run 1.3 but I dont have excell on the laptop, I use eec annalizer to view the logs. I have excell on the desktop but dont have tweecer installed anymore as a virus made us wipe our HD. If you want to PM or e-mail me a log I can see if it works on the windows ME excell.

wish I could be of more help.

Thanks for the quick reply

Its not a big deal for me personally as I have no probs myself but nowadays it seems more & more peeps want me to look at thier dl's and of course they all use the latest version which I don't choose to use.

I'll throw the log in EA when I get home and see what happens. Don't know why I didn't think of that method so you see, you have been of some help.

Thanks for the idea

Later
Grady

 

[blksn955.o]

no problem, glad to be able to give some help instead of asking for it.

 

[final5-0]

no problem, glad to be able to give some help instead of asking for it.

OK Greg

Got an update for you on looking at the newer version d logs.

Your idea worked so I was able to view the file in EEC Analyzer

However ........................

I could also view it in Log Analyst which is better for me cause when others want help the first thing I like to do is see the trends in the data which LA is excellent at doing. One quick click and you switch from raw data to a chart view with several points of data shown at your choosing. I never considered using it even though I've used it many times with my personal tuning

All I really wanted to do was look at the raw data anyway so the LA option is a big plus for me

btw Greg, if you've never used LA I recommend it and the price is right cause you can dl it for free.

Once again Greg...... thanks for giving me some ideas which helped me come out of my Massive Brain Fart

You Da Man

Later
Grady

 

[Joes95GT]

Damn Grady, I was actually considering upgrading to the V1.30, but if you're having problems with it, there is no way I'm going to mess with it. You're the Tweecer king - I know I'd be clueless.

BTW, the car is off jackstands.

Joe

 

[WhiteDevil]

Yeah use EEC analyzer to view my logs, also.

 

[final5-0]

Damn Grady, I was actually considering upgrading to the V1.30, but if you're having problems with it, there is no way I'm going to mess with it. You're the Tweecer king - I know I'd be clueless.

BTW, the car is off jackstands.

Joe

Hey Joe ....................... hows things goin buddy

Many use 1.30 and like it. It does have what I call data drop outs or as some call it ...... "spikes in the dataloggs".

To give you an idea of why I don't like that version. One of the guys wanted me to look at his spark stuff and the file looked strange when I first viewed it. To clean it up so I could see what was goin on I first had to find the spark values that were way off bounds and then delete them from the d log. After that I then could go on about what I tried to do in the first place which was just analyze a little data

Now the guys that say that version is the bees nees will casually tell you, (if you bring it to their attention), that from time to time you have to "filter out" some data points but hey, "its no big deal". To that I say

You know how us Old Farts are Joe, just kinda set in our ways

1.30 has some good points and that is a fact I don't deny. But for me, its quite helpfuf to be able to see trends in the data or, if you will, a bigger picture when analyzing a big d log so I just don't wanna have to "filter out" all the B S data that 1.30 drops all over the place

Enough of this stuff ............. Hows the Stang runnin?

Later
Grady

 

[67stang390]

Not to change the subject but is EEC Analyzer worth buying? I just switched to 1.30 but haven't played with it much yet.

 

[BlackVert]

Hey Joe ....................... hows things goin buddy

Many use 1.30 and like it. It does have what I call data drop outs or as some call it ...... "spikes in the dataloggs".

To give you an idea of why I don't like that version. One of the guys wanted me to look at his spark stuff and the file looked strange when I first viewed it. To clean it up so I could see what was goin on I first had to find the spark values that were way off bounds and then delete them from the d log. After that I then could go on about what I tried to do in the first place which was just analyze a little data

Now the guys that say that version is the bees nees will casually tell you, (if you bring it to their attention), that from time to time you have to "filter out" some data points but hey, "its no big deal". To that I say

You know how us Old Farts are Joe, just kinda set in our ways

1.30 has some good points and that is a fact I don't deny. But for me, its quite helpfuf to be able to see trends in the data or, if you will, a bigger picture when analyzing a big d log so I just don't wanna have to "filter out" all the B S data that 1.30 drops all over the place

Enough of this stuff ............. Hows the Stang runnin?

Later
Grady

so the v1.20 datalogs don't have any bad data/spikes in them? i used it for about a week and then went to 1.30.

 

[BlackVert]

Not to change the subject but is EEC Analyzer worth buying? I just switched to 1.30 but haven't played with it much yet.

everyone who has it says it is great. i don't use it.

 

[final5-0]

Not to change the subject but is EEC Analyzer worth buying? I just switched to 1.30 but haven't played with it much yet.

You Betcha ......... very helpful ............. Worth the money

Do a search on here & Corral to see for yourself, you'll be surprised

Later
Grady

 

[final5-0]

so the v1.20 datalogs don't have any bad data/spikes in them? i used it for about a week and then went to 1.30.

That would be a yes Chris

I did not jump on that version when it first came out cause I wanted to see what others had to say about it

After seeing peeps talk about the data drop out thing I just said ....................... No thank you

Later
Grady

 

[SmokinGT50]

As one of the original TwEECer cheerleaders, I am currently disgusted with the complete lack of software development for the TwEECer, I have been waiting two years now, for what I would call a fully functional, stable release of the TwEECer software. I know this is off topic, but I wanted to vent.

 

[final5-0]

As one of the original TwEECer cheerleaders, I am currently disgusted with the complete lack of software development for the TwEECer, I have been waiting two years now, for what I would call a fully functional, stable release of the TwEECer software. I know this is off topic, but I wanted to vent.

Yes you are so right about this issue Steve.

For our cars pcm family there has been as you know issues with the ACT & ECT.

I have seen on more than one occasion peeps who know about software, programming and the like say that to fix those few bugs would not be a big prob but nothing was done to correct them.

Still I have been able to tune my Stang to a point of drivability like a stocker with the exception of the cam lope so the bugs have not hindered me too much in my efforts.

Later
Grady

 

[95BlackTan50]

Going waaaaay back to the original question, yes, you can view the version 1.30 data logs with Excel but you need to convert them first. If you open CalCon and go to the Plotting tab, below the graph and above the "Dislplay", "Color" and "Export" buttons there is a text box. It may or may not have any text in it. Double click on the text box and it will bring up an open file dialog. Select the file that you want, then click on the export button. It will create a CSV file that is compatible with Excel. No, it's not intuitively obvioius and yes the 1.30 version has some issues. If it didn't have ACT available, I would use 1.20.

 

[dstanggt50]

Alright, maybe a stupid question, but I've been looking into the tweecer for a while, and I've got some money saved and been looking on the website for a little info, but I've got a couple of questions. I assume that if I were to order one now it would be the 1.3 version, but there are bugs in the system? And I was looking into getting the R/T version for the datalogging capability, is this the same as the "EEC Analyzer"? If the new version is that bad, should I look into a used kit w/the older version?? Sorry for stupid questions, but the tweecer has always interested me and I have the funds for it now.

 

[95BlackTan50]

You can load either version into your PC. I think they are both available on the web site. If not, ask someone in the TwEECer forum and I'm sure someone will e-mail you a copy of 1.20B. You don't need to get an old TwEECer to use 1.20B if you want to.

Definitely get the RT model.

The EEC Analyzer is a separate program that you can buy for I think $50. Several people use it and have had great results.

The new version of the software isn't "bad", but it has some quirks that keep it from being "great". In any case, if you have driveability issues with your car, you should be able to tune them out with a TwEECer.

 

[dstanggt50]

You can load either version into your PC. I think they are both available on the web site. If not, ask someone in the TwEECer forum and I'm sure someone will e-mail you a copy of 1.20B. You don't need to get an old TwEECer to use 1.20B if you want to.

Definitely get the RT model.

The EEC Analyzer is a separate program that you can buy for I think $50. Several people use it and have had great results.

The new version of the software isn't "bad", but it has some quirks that keep it from being "great". In any case, if you have driveability issues with your car, you should be able to tune them out with a TwEECer.

Thanks!
So is the EEC Analyzer a product of the same company that makes the Tweecer? Maybe I just missed it on the website, but what does it do differently than the software that datalogs in the R/T version? Once again, sorry for the noob type questions, just trying to get more info, I'll also see if I missed the Analyzer on the website. I'm definately looking forward to getting the tweecer.

 

[blksn955.o]

I am planning on DL'ing LA to check it out and have yet another tool to work with. I hear/read alot of good things about that stuff too (thanks Blackvert for the program work time ).

As far as spikes/drop outs it is a PITA, but I dont know if any of the EA users have messed with loading all the updates. There is a great filter in there now to make this issue alot easier to deal with. (big thanks to clint for his time/work in that software ).

dstanggt50-- the software is just downloaded off the tweecer.com website. I would suggest downloading it first, either 1.2,1.3 or both to see which one you like best as far as feel goes (before you even buy the tweecer) to look at things and search the http://tweecer.oplnk.net site to get used to some of the basics. The Eec Annalizer is not from the same company as tweecer (if it was tweecer would prob. have put PMS and alot of others to shame by now), The guy who made EA is on the http:// site his SN is 86gt and he has a link in his sig at the bott. of his posts. EA does not datalog it just crunches the numbers from the datalogs to aid you in finding out what you need to input in the tweecer. EA would be preaty useless on a non-R/T model as you would need the datalogs to export to EA.