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snakebite01

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What does everyone think about this kit??

My car is a 92 gt and i just want a respectable street car.. I was thinking about this twisted wedge kit from trick flow Trick Flow Specialties TFS-K514-360350B - Trick Flow® 360 HP Twisted Wedge® Top-End Engine Kits for Ford 5.0L - summitracing.com


does it seem like a good kit to go with for the price and what i would be getting out of it??

if so what crank and pistons should i get to go with this set up??

and does anyone know what lifters i would need???

- Matt
 

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It's a great kit. You could use it with the stock internals, or step up to a stoker kit if you were looking for more power. On a stock engine, most people are in the 300-315ish RWHP range after bolting it on.
 
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That kit is a great deal as long as you're not expecting to grow too much. The biggest part of the kit are the heads and at 170cc's they are pretty much maxed out on a 302 IMO. Even though a TW 170cc head is "bigger" than a standard in-line 170 you're still only looking at a bit over 400 HP N/A capability.

I would recommend the COMP 851-16 lifters. If you are budget minded the FMS lifters will do fine but you're best off to replace them if you change the cam and up the spring pressure.

Also if you go with this kit don't just drop it in and assume all is good. Even though it comes as a "matched" set you still need to degree the cam and check valve train geometry.
 

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Brian@PAR said:
That kit is a great deal as long as you're not expecting to grow too much. The biggest part of the kit are the heads and at 170cc's they are pretty much maxed out on a 302 IMO. Even though a TW 170cc head is "bigger" than a standard in-line 170 you're still only looking at a bit over 400 HP N/A capability.

I would recommend the COMP 851-16 lifters. If you are budget minded the FMS lifters will do fine but you're best off to replace them if you change the cam and up the spring pressure.

Also if you go with this kit don't just drop it in and assume all is good. Even though it comes as a "matched" set you still need to degree the cam and check valve train geometry.
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yeah, i'm very tedious when it comes to my motor. i will still check all my clearences and geometry...
 

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StangGT1995 said:
It's a great kit. You could use it with the stock internals, or step up to a stoker kit if you were looking for more power. On a stock engine, most people are in the 300-315ish RWHP range after bolting it on.
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if i wanted to stroke it out what pistons should i go with along with this kit??
 

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probe srs pistons ftw
 

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dcurtis said:
probe srs pistons ftw
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what about this kit, eagle pistons rods and forged crankshaft + boost??
 

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snakebite01 said:
what about this kit, eagle pistons rods and forged crankshaft + boost??
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If you plan on throwing boost at it, you may want to re-think your setup and skip the new rotating assembly. The stock bottom end will be more than adequate for block splitting horsepower, and adding a built rotating assembly to is not only not necessary….but also can be wastefull if/when the block splits and takes out all of those expensive goodies.

So if you’re looking to add boost, the h/c/I, stock shortblock and 10lbs should get you into the 500rwhp range.
 

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If you plan on throwing boost at it, you may want to re-think your setup and skip the new rotating assembly. The stock bottom end will be more than adequate for block splitting horsepower, and adding a built rotating assembly to is not only not necessary….but also can be wastefull if/when the block splits and takes out all of those expensive goodies.

So if you’re looking to add boost, the h/c/I, stock shortblock and 10lbs should get you into the 500rwhp range.
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i see you know about boost.. what h/c/i would you suggest?? i wanna do a tt setup
 

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snakebite01 said:
i see you know about boost.. what h/c/i would you suggest?? i wanna do a tt setup
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It's hard to beat the tfs top end kit. They have been proven time and again to produce great numbers. I'd prefer the f303 over what comes with the tfs top end kit, but it will do just fine.
 

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its a great kit. heres videoof my car right after i installed it on my car when i had stock 302 short block
YouTube - My 93 LX right after my trickflow H/C/I and Tko 600 install
 

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ShortThrow50 said:
its a great kit. heres videoof my car right after i installed it on my car when i had stock 302 short block
YouTube - My 93 LX right after my trickflow H/C/I and Tko 600 install
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that seems nice... thanks for the vid
 

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millhouse said:
It's hard to beat the tfs top end kit. They have been proven time and again to produce great numbers. I'd prefer the f303 over what comes with the tfs top end kit, but it will do just fine.
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great.. i'm thinking that's the kit i will put on.. and if i have the money i will get eagle pistons, rods, and crank, and a bottom block!!!
 

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Wow you have a lot of cars :O
 

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snakebite01 said:
great.. i'm thinking that's the kit i will put on.. and if i have the money i will get eagle pistons, rods, and crank, and a bottom block!!!
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Just be sure to not pot that rotating assembly in a stock block if you are for sure going to run any type of forced induction! If you don’t have the cash for everything, I’d suggest throwing the h/c/I on the stock block along with the turbo kit…..and building a stout bottom end while you have the funds. Once you have the bottom end ready to go, swap the h/c/I into you’re new block and crank up the boost!
 

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Wow you have a lot of cars :O
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lol i try
 

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millhouse said:
Just be sure to not pot that rotating assembly in a stock block if you are for sure going to run any type of forced induction! If you don’t have the cash for everything, I’d suggest throwing the h/c/I on the stock block along with the turbo kit…..and building a stout bottom end while you have the funds. Once you have the bottom end ready to go, swap the h/c/I into you’re new block and crank up the boost!
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yeah,, i'm hoping to have all the money to get it all done at once so i don't have to do twice the amount of work..
 

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snakebite01 said:
that seems nice... thanks for the vid
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no problem
 

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no problem
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where did you have that camera mounted??
 

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where did you have that camera mounted??
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LOL. I should take a pic next time when i film my 347 stroker setup. I use painters tape and tape it in between the 2 back seat back rests. You would laugh if you saw what i did, but hey it works
 
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