U/D pulleys and T/A question

5spdBlack · May 26, 2006

Hey guys I tried a search but didn't find the exact answer I was looking for.

I'm thinking about getting some Steeda U/D pulleys and a Steeda T/A becuase I hear its a good idea to get both at once. However, I have a few questions.

1) what does the timing adjuster actually do?
2) I plan on getting the Diablosport Predator eventually, can't that essentially do the same thing as the T/A?

Thanks a lot guys

stangman · May 26, 2006

don't spend money twice. if you plan on getting a tuner, just get the pullies

TangerineGT96 · May 26, 2006

stangman said:
don't spend money twice. if you plan on getting a tuner, just get the pullies

+1 T/A lets you advance or retard your ignition for better performance

03ghoststang · May 26, 2006

yeah just wait and get the tuner later cause it will do the same thing as the T/A

Kilgore Trout · May 26, 2006

Timing adjusters are an ill-advised mod on engines that electronically control their own timing advance

If you use a handheld engine programmer such as an SCT XCal2 you can adjust timing much more effectively.

Pullies suck also

03ghoststang · May 26, 2006

McTeague said:
Timing adjusters are an ill-advised mod on engines that electronically control their own timing advance

If you use a handheld engine programmer such as an SCT XCal2 you can adjust timing much more effectively.

Pullies suck also

yeah i dont like the T/A either the tuner is overall a better investment cause you can adjust the A/F ratio and do other things for one, with it being just one purchase

5spdBlack · May 29, 2006

McTeague said:
Pullies suck also

Thanks for the advice guys...also I did a bunch of research on this site regarding pullies and although some people disagree it seemed that the overwhelming majority thought pullies were a good modification.

DisposableHero · May 29, 2006

i went with both and regret it because i got supercharged a few months after

the pulleys didnt really do much, but the t/a was a waste totally.. a chip/tune will do the same and save you labor charges

fluffyrunnells · May 29, 2006

go with the pullies.....you wont really feel it in your ass, but compared to other bolt ons, they are an excellent investment.

Pennywise2 · May 29, 2006

You should save your funds and get a SCT Xcal2 it's we'll worth it.
Also the only underdrive pulleys I would consider for are cars would
be the Steeda underdrive pulleys because they are non-piggyback
pulleys.I have been useing the Steeda underdrive pulleys on my car
for three years now with no issues at all.

MaxedGT · May 30, 2006

Steeda pullies if you go with pullies. Tuner is a good investment if you're going to change you're axle ratio later. See my sig, for my results as I've been making changes. The biggest power gain from one bolt-on was the off road x-pipe. BBK x-pipes don't sound the greatest, but the power gain, I found impressive.

Mustanggt108 · May 30, 2006

Pennywise2 said:
You should save your funds and get a SCT Xcal2 it's we'll worth it.
Also the only underdrive pulleys I would consider for are cars would
be the Steeda underdrive pulleys because they are non-piggyback
pulleys.I have been useing the Steeda underdrive pulleys on my car
for three years now with no issues at all.

+1
2 yrs here with Steeda Pulleys with No issues

5spdBlack · May 30, 2006

awesome thanks guys! I was planning on going with the Steeda pullies as I hear they are the best, and I don't think i'll be getting the T/A. I plan on getting 4.10's eventually so i'll just get a handheld engine programmer with those. Thanks again

fluffyrunnells · May 30, 2006

5spdBlack said:
awesome thanks guys! I was planning on going with the Steeda pullies as I hear they are the best, and I don't think i'll be getting the T/A. I plan on getting 4.10's eventually so i'll just get a handheld engine programmer with those. Thanks again

nice mod combo....should love the set up

GettinThere · May 30, 2006

5spdBlack said:
awesome thanks guys! I was planning on going with the Steeda pullies as I hear they are the best, and I don't think i'll be getting the T/A. I plan on getting 4.10's eventually so i'll just get a handheld engine programmer with those. Thanks again

Agreed, good plan. I think most issues with pullies are due to improper installation, so do them right. Yeah, skip the TA (old school) and get an SCT Xcal2.

BooWFO · May 30, 2006

Steeda's are not the only non-piggyback pullies out there. Motoblue's are also I believe the ASAP's are too.
UD's - Pro's frees up a few ponies, engine rev's a little more freely. CONS - Ac don't work as well, and did I mention the ac don't work as well.

TA - Pro's very affordable, can resell, can remove if selling car, and allows you to adjust the global timing. Cons- only adjust the global timing, Some exp. CEl's with them and IMO makes the front of the engine looked cluttered

Handheld programmers - Pros- can adjust just about anything. Cons - if you only run a certain setup a chip may be a better choice.

But if I were spending your money, U/d's, handheld, gears, offroad, and you'll have a good start.

jstang94gt · May 30, 2006

Not to hijack the thread, but since you're talking about gears, what kind of a difference do 4.10's make in driveablility and mileage for our cars? I had a '94 GT with 3.73's and I hated the mileage and the driveability.

BooWFO · May 30, 2006

jstang94gt said:
Not to hijack the thread, but since you're talking about gears, what kind of a difference do 4.10's make in driveablility and mileage for our cars? I had a '94 GT with 3.73's and I hated the mileage and the driveability.

You hated 3.73's in a 5.0? Man those are my favorite gears for a 5.0.
Anyways there is lots of threads that discuss the differences you cna do a quick search and get more info that you prolly want.
In my car I get 24mpg on the hwy I averg 20mpg combined driving and that inculdes a night at the drag strip spraying. I shift between 2k and 2500, which means I'm in 4th or 5th by the time I'm across the average 4lane intersection. The car cruises comfortable at 75-80 getting the above mileage. 90mph is 3k with the 3650 5spd 5th gear ratio. Only real downside is 4th tops out at about 108-110 ish. And 5th doesn't pull all that great at those elevated speeds. Now as for driving they're easy you pretty much have your choice of taking off in 1st which really gets the car moving, 2nd which feels about like the stock gear and 1st or 3rd gear which takes a lil clutch riding to get moving but not alot. Only real downside is wet roads, I find it is easier to take off in 2nd not that first is uncontrollable actaully it is very controllable but when I do the upshift to 2nd it tends to get a lil loose. I'm not a suspension guru but I'm thinking it's the unloading and reloading of the chassis coupled with the gear multiplication.

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