• Mustang Forums
  • 2005 - 2014 S-197 Mustang -General/Talk-
  • 2005 - 2014 Specific V6 Tech

v6 headers

  • Thread starter Thread starter Matai70
  • Start date Start date Jul 2, 2006
M

Matai70

New Member
Jul 2, 2006
6
0
0
Jul 2, 2006
#1
  • Jul 2, 2006
  • #1
Hey guys whatsup, im new to the site and must I say I love it. It is extremely informative and helpful. Oh and of course everyone seems so kind.
I have a question though. What would benefit an 05' v6 more long tube or shortie headers? and h-pipe or x-pipe or just stock y-pipe?
Thanks in advance
 
S

shooterm1

New Member
Jul 18, 2005
540
1
0
Milford, Pennsylvania USA
Jul 2, 2006
#2
  • Jul 2, 2006
  • #2
Matai70 said:
Hey guys whatsup, im new to the site and must I say I love it. It is extremely informative and helpful. Oh and of course everyone seems so kind.
I have a question though. What would benefit an 05' v6 more long tube or shortie headers? and h-pipe or x-pipe or just stock y-pipe?
Thanks in advance
Click to expand...

On a dollar for dollar - most bang for the buck basis, the "H" pipe is the best value.

"X" pipes offer some slight increase in RWHP over the "H" pipe, but not enough for me to recommend it.

the short headers are just a waste of money .......... period.

HAPPY INDEPENDENCE DAY Y'ALL ​
 
M

Matai70

New Member
Jul 2, 2006
6
0
0
Jul 2, 2006
#3
  • Jul 2, 2006
  • #3
so basically x pipe if i have the money lol
and long tube?
Thanks for all of the help!!
 
S

shooterm1

New Member
Jul 18, 2005
540
1
0
Milford, Pennsylvania USA
Jul 2, 2006
#4
  • Jul 2, 2006
  • #4
Matai70 said:
so basically x pipe if i have the money lol
and long tube?
Thanks for all of the help!!
Click to expand...

IMO / Long Tube Headers only make sense if you're planning on putting a SC on and cramming lots of air though the motor.
 
M

Matai70

New Member
Jul 2, 2006
6
0
0
Jul 2, 2006
#5
  • Jul 2, 2006
  • #5
Most definatly
hmm one more question do any of you all know who sells long tube headers for an 05 v6 or and h or x pipe?
Thanks youve been really helpful again
 

Excepcion13

New Member
Sep 16, 2005
215
0
0
Northern Virginia
Jul 6, 2006
#6
  • Jul 6, 2006
  • #6
shooterm1 said:
IMO / Long Tube Headers only make sense if you're planning on putting a SC on and cramming lots of air though the motor.
Click to expand...

I don't agree, Shooter. I had LTs before I went to shorties for the turbo system, and the LTs produced noticeably more torque. MAC sells some LTs for about $300, and they took my mechanic an hour to install (if that). They sounded great and made more power. So if someone is looking to maximize output without going FI, they are an integral piece of the puzzle.

Of course, they work very well with a SC, as you suggest!! As long as you don't plan on getting a turbo, LTs are a good way to make more torque.
 
S

shooterm1

New Member
Jul 18, 2005
540
1
0
Milford, Pennsylvania USA
Jul 6, 2006
#7
  • Jul 6, 2006
  • #7
Excepcion13 said:
I don't agree, Shooter. I had LTs before I went to shorties for the turbo system, and the LTs produced noticeably more torque. MAC sells some LTs for about $300, and they took my mechanic an hour to install (if that). They sounded great and made more power. So if someone is looking to maximize output without going FI, they are an integral piece of the puzzle.

Of course, they work very well with a SC, as you suggest!! As long as you don't plan on getting a turbo, LTs are a good way to make more torque.
Click to expand...


just curious, did you dyno that set-up?
 

Excepcion13

New Member
Sep 16, 2005
215
0
0
Northern Virginia
Jul 6, 2006
#8
  • Jul 6, 2006
  • #8
shooterm1 said:
just curious, did you dyno that set-up?
Click to expand...

No, more's the pity, but I sold the set-up to a member on the 4.0 Collective. Hopefully he will and let us know what he ends up with. However, I would estimate (just an estimate) around 230 RWHP and 260+ RWTQ. I was at 205 RWHP/240 RWTQ w/o the headers, chamber, HiFlo cats, and dual exhaust, so these numbers are a guesstimate. But I will say that I felt a big difference, akin to when I added the CAI and tune.

If Furinox dynos, I will post the numbers here for posterity.
 
S

shooterm1

New Member
Jul 18, 2005
540
1
0
Milford, Pennsylvania USA
Jul 7, 2006
#9
  • Jul 7, 2006
  • #9
Excepcion13 said:
No, more's the pity, but I sold the set-up to a member on the 4.0 Collective. Hopefully he will and let us know what he ends up with. However, I would estimate (just an estimate) around 230 RWHP and 260+ RWTQ. I was at 205 RWHP/240 RWTQ w/o the headers, chamber, HiFlo cats, and dual exhaust, so these numbers are a guesstimate. But I will say that I felt a big difference, akin to when I added the CAI and tune.

If Furinox dynos, I will post the numbers here for posterity.
Click to expand...

I'm not surprised about the Torque curve, but the boost in RWHP seems a bit audacious.

And dont you have to reloacte or remove the Cats on this set-up too?
 

Excepcion13

New Member
Sep 16, 2005
215
0
0
Northern Virginia
Jul 7, 2006
#10
  • Jul 7, 2006
  • #10
shooterm1 said:
I'm not surprised about the Torque curve, but the boost in RWHP seems a bit audacious.

And dont you have to reloacte or remove the Cats on this set-up too?
Click to expand...

Yeah, it is a guesstimate, probably on the high end!!

I guess what I am saying is that there was a very noticeable difference after the installation.

The cats are relocated from the diagonal to the horizontal area (still heatshielded), or they can be removed.
 

hutcccch

New Member
Mar 29, 2006
92
0
0
Oct 3, 2006
#11
  • Oct 3, 2006
  • #11
If you put LT headers on your car does it void the warranty ? Im guessing it does?
 
U

Uncle Meat

Banned
Jun 13, 2002
0
1
0
Prattville, Alabama
Oct 4, 2006
#12
  • Oct 4, 2006
  • #12
hutcccch said:
If you put LT headers on your car does it void the warranty ? Im guessing it does?
Click to expand...
Depends on a couple different factors, the first being the service department at your local Ford dealer. Some dealerships are more mod friendly than others. I've seen dealerships that voided a warranty because the car had a CAI on it! Technically LT headers can't void a power train warranty by themselves...

*Please refrain from throwing out any Magnuson Moss act crap folks. That law it isn't worth the paper it's written on unless you have lots of time and money to support extended litigation.

As for shortys not providing gains... They may not show noticeable or sizable gains in peak HP or TQ, but often times they will provide substantial increases under the curve. At least that's the case with my '03 Cobra. I gained a lot of mid-range TQ & HP with the JBA shortys. They are also CARB legal if that's a concern based on your location & emission laws.

U.M.
 

Mike97gt

it doe snot
Founding Member
Jan 26, 1999
10,633
7
89
the people's republic of massachusetts
Oct 4, 2006
#13
  • Oct 4, 2006
  • #13
UM is right, it really is up to the dealer to report the mods to ford, but if we don't report the mods and Ford sends a inspector out to see the car then we are screwed and the claim gets bounced. I have seen this happen before to one of the techs at my work on his own truck.
 

glewis29

New Member
May 4, 2006
98
0
0
Oct 4, 2006
#14
  • Oct 4, 2006
  • #14
What mods would be grounds for getting the warranty work 'bounced'? I'm thinking of doing free flowing muffler, jba shorty headers and a K&N FIPK.

Thanks,
 
U

Uncle Meat

Banned
Jun 13, 2002
0
1
0
Prattville, Alabama
Oct 4, 2006
#15
  • Oct 4, 2006
  • #15
glewis29 said:
What mods would be grounds for getting the warranty work 'bounced'? I'm thinking of doing free flowing muffler, jba shorty headers and a K&N FIPK.

Thanks,
Click to expand...
Like stated above... depends on the service department and the item requiring warranty work. I have full exhaust on my Cobra (Shorty headers, X-pipe, Cat-back) plus a FIPK and they have honored my warranty without any problems what-so-ever (replaced the drivers side head!). That's MY service department... I have to drive over an hour to get to them though. I know for a fact my local Ford service department would laugh in my face if they saw a full exhaust system on my car and I asked for powertrain related warranty work like that.

A lot of it to has to do with the type of warranty claim your attempting to make. I know guys with 600+ HP fully modified KB Cobra's who have had their Mach 460 radios replaced under warranty no problem.

If you put headers on the car and then take it in and try to get the catalytic convertor replaced because it rattles, no I don't think they would entertain a warranty repair because it's very probable the headers may have caused or contributed to the bad cat. Now if you brought it in with headers & aftermarket exhaust and needed the alternator replaced because it went bad they shouldn't have a problem with that.

U.M.
 

hutcccch

New Member
Mar 29, 2006
92
0
0
Oct 4, 2006
#16
  • Oct 4, 2006
  • #16
Sounds good
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Similar threads

Fox Mid Pipe
  • 93gtmustang
  • Oct 20, 2025
  • 1979 - 1995 (Fox, SN95.0, & 2.3L) -General/Talk-
Replies
5
Views
239
1979 - 1995 (Fox, SN95.0, & 2.3L) -General/Talk- Oct 21, 2025
Mustang5L5
Fox 329 HP low for a stroker?
  • Andresquintana.mma
  • Apr 15, 2025
  • 1979 - 1995 (Fox, SN95.0, & 2.3L) -General/Talk-
  • 2
Replies
23
Views
1K
1979 - 1995 (Fox, SN95.0, & 2.3L) -General/Talk- Apr 19, 2025
Jarhead67
J
Eastern North Carolina Autocross Events!
  • Warhorse Racing
  • Feb 23, 2026
  • Regional Forums and Event Information
Replies
0
Views
305
Regional Forums and Event Information Feb 23, 2026
Warhorse Racing
S
Engine 2003 Mach 1 Automatic Upgrades assistance
  • SJK1417M1AT
  • Sep 25, 2025
  • SN95 4.6L Mustang Tech
Replies
3
Views
235
SN95 4.6L Mustang Tech Dec 21, 2025
01SVTvertt
0
Exhaust 1 3/4” Long Tubes on a Fox Body AOD – Easiest route?
  • 5.0 Mike
  • Mar 19, 2025
  • Fox 5.0 Mustang Tech
Replies
6
Views
1K
Fox 5.0 Mustang Tech Mar 21, 2025
5.0 Mike
Share:
Bluesky Email Share Link
  • Mustang Forums
  • 2005 - 2014 S-197 Mustang -General/Talk-
  • 2005 - 2014 Specific V6 Tech
Menu
Log in

Register

  • Forums
  • What's new
  • Media
  • Resources
  • Contact
  • Sponsor
X

Privacy & Transparency

We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:

  • Personalized ads and content
  • Content measurement and audience insights

Do you accept cookies and these technologies?

X

Privacy & Transparency

We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:

  • Personalized ads and content
  • Content measurement and audience insights

Do you accept cookies and these technologies?