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V8 Camaro Death Watch Poll

  • Thread starter Thread starter shooterm1
  • Start date Start date Mar 30, 2009

what are the chances that GM kills the 2010 V8 Camaro now?

  • 50/50

    Votes: 17 33.3%
  • less than 20%

    Votes: 8 15.7%
  • won`t happen

    Votes: 26 51.0%

  • Total voters
    51
  • Poll closed Jul 8, 2009.
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shooterm1

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#1
  • Mar 30, 2009
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so what are the chances of GM killing the V8 Camaro now
 

TBrad

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  • Mar 30, 2009
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Definitely there will not be a Z-28 that goes into production.
If they kill it now... that will be one hell of a collector car.
 

stangdude2000

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  • Mar 31, 2009
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There's absolutely no reason to kill the V8 Camaro. It has already been tooled and the plants are set up for it. They will not lose MORE money by building the car and selling it. The vast majority of the cost of cars is from the initial tooling and R&D. It might directly cost say $10k (made up number, but probably not too far off) to build a single SS Camaro once the line is set up. It will unquestionably recoup some of the cost of developing the car.

The Z/28 isn't ready in the production aspect, and since GM is out of money, it has been axed. You need money to make money...
 
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o0Dan0o

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#4
  • Mar 31, 2009
  • #4
What Stangdude2000 said. They will only make money here on out by making the camaro.
Dan
 
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shooterm1

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  • Mar 31, 2009
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stangdude2000 said:
There's absolutely no reason to kill the V8 Camaro. It has already been tooled and the plants are set up for it. They will not lose MORE money by building the car and selling it. The vast majority of the cost of cars is from the initial tooling and R&D. It might directly cost say $10k (made up number, but probably not too far off) to build a single SS Camaro once the line is set up. It will unquestionably recoup some of the cost of developing the car.
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while your argument is well reasoned, GM has new masters now,,, Politically Correct Masters, who don't like muscle cars ...

so what made sense in the auto world of day before yesterday - doesn't make political sense in the new reality of today.

Welcome to the Brave New World of American Democratic Socioeconomics.






btw / GM sucks and deserves whatever they get,

.... its just too bad that they were too big to fail.
 

stangdude2000

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#6
  • Mar 31, 2009
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That's another reason why they killed the Z/28. But at the present time, the government is a little more interested in making them a viable company to help save the economy. They wouldn't force a company they are trying to rescue into cutting a profitable line.
 

autumn_again

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  • Mar 31, 2009
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Gm will do nothing but profit off a V8 camaro. stock vs a stock mustang the v8 camaro whoops ass in the corners and in the straight line. besides, they are already taking orders on the SS. so many people want this car as ugly as it is.

more horsepower, IRS, 6 speed. no reason to kill it. the z28s gunna have to hault because when they are asking for money designing a car with high horsepower isn't the smartest idea. if they took the bail out money and put it towards the volt and tried to make it cheaper and start producing it.

they've spent so much time and money on the SS, if they didn't produce it they would have done all that for no reason.


i'm upset that they arent making the G8 truck anymore though. that with a 6 speed i would take in a heartbeat, because ford wont bring the ranchero over here.
 

ufnavy06

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#8
  • Mar 31, 2009
  • #8
It's less than 20%. The only way the Camaro dies is if it saves the Corvette. That is it. Chevy will go down fighting but the last car it'll have will be the Corvette.

Too bad Chevy (GM) is worried about ruining my favorite cartoon of all time by pumping their money into making the movie one gigantic Chevy commerical. Fat lot of good that did for them 2 years ago. Making one off concept cars just for movies. That's one of GM's problems.
 
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stanmckinney

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#9
  • Mar 31, 2009
  • #9
GM has essentially been taken over by the government. I wouldn't bet on the government giving the OK to producing the Camaro.
The car should have come out when Transformers did. They would have sold quite well at the time.
 

SpartaPerformance

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#10
  • Mar 31, 2009
  • #10
Obama runnin' GM now. If the government is onvolved here's what going to happen they'll let the camaro production continue but they'll add a Muscle car tax that will kill sales....That's the government. LOL
 

stangdude2000

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  • Apr 1, 2009
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Well here is the final answer. Car already has a VIN and is slated for delivery in 2 weeks. Looks like it is definitely making it into production!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/NEW-....c0.m245&_trkparms=72:317|65:12|39:1|240:1318
 
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kevinmach1

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I'm pretty sure its in production since my brother-in-law has been driving one for almost a month now....
 

snaggeltooth

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Better pole would be ..Camaro production makes it past 3 years ...
 

03GT Mike

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Thats what I was thinking, except I was only going to give it one model year. That is unless GM can figure out how to build an engine that runs only on air to keep their new CEO obama happy
 
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BudgetPlan1

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Sure would disappoint all the people with 'sold orders' if they disassembled the ones already produced.
 

Fourth Horseman

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I hope Chevy sells tons of them. We need all the good news for Detroit we can get. Also, I wouldn't mind parking a Camaro SS next to my two Fords sometime in the next couple of years, so I hope they keep it in production.
 
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shooterm1

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GM would disappoint all the people with 'sold orders' if they disassembled the ones already produced.
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say, that's great!

now Cal Custom will have someone to sell all of their gnarly accessories to again

View attachment 263874​
 
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shooterm1

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Discontinued Performance Models

Autoweek just listed a group of performance models GM drops immediately.
Some are "no brainers".
Impala SS
Cadillac STS-V
Cobalt SS in only the coupe, not even in the HHR
Cadillac XLR and XLR-V (no big surprise)
Pontiac's G6, Grand Prix GXP et al are dead ...
The Pontiac Solstice, Saturn Sky and Opel GT aren't long for this world.

cant wait until the Commie Camero flops and goes tits up too!
 

'13_ImpactBlue_GT

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  • #19
They kill Pontiac but leave the Buick division intact
 

tr7driver

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Camaro Convertible

What are the odds that we will see a vert? Maybe by a car converter?
 
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