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Hey guys so trying to start a little discussion here. The answer might seem obvious but it's got me thinking. I am thinking about selling my car but in no way am i trying to to make this a whats my car worth thread. My car is pretty heavily modded. Mostly every bolt on but thats about it, easily removable. I am trying to think if it is worth trying to hunt down stock parts and bring my car back to stock as much as possible, or just try and sell it as it is.

I've got tfs intake, tfs cam, and gt40p heads, I was considering bringing back the top end back to just stock, put the stock t/b back on with egr and everything. The car would still have no smog or a/c. I am also thinking about bringing back the stock suspension, stock springs shocks, struts, control arms, etc.

My question is do you guys think I would get more for my car closer to stock form, or is it not worh the hassle and just sell it as is? By the way I am not trying to con anyone into buying my car or make anyone think they are buying a stock car that is really a piece of junk, I would just be trying to appeal to those who look for something more stock,
 

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When i see cars listed with a stack of mods i assume they have been beaten on. When someone lists a stock vehicle the possibility is still there but seems less of a risk. Lets face it, mods are for power to go faster. You wouldn't have spent all that money on them and not used them.
 
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Yea I know you're right I guess my less obvious question is, is it worth going form modded to stock to make a little extra $$$? I'm talking money/time here.
 

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I would think that the suspention mods would be a better addition to the value of the car than the engine mods.
I really think the value depends on the condition of the car as a whole and if the buyer is looking for a car with those parts already added. If I were to walk up on a car that looked like dr. Frankenstein built it but it had nice parts on it I'd pay less tan if the car looked like the person who owned it took care and time on the install and it was clean
 

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You'll definitely get more for the speed parts separately than selling them on the car. I would try to sell the car complete first, though. If you can't get what you want for it, start swapping parts. When returning the car to stock, factor in the cost of buying OEM parts you may not have and factor in your time to swap everything because that will cut into whatever extra you make by selling them separately.

Your car with mods is worth more than a stock one IMO, but don't expect to get back more than 25-50% of what the mods cost you. when I sold my '89 GT, I pulled the modified engine out (the one in my sig) and put the stock one back. I had the better part of $4,000 in it and would have been lucky to get $1000 by selling it with the car at the time. The heads alone were more than that.
 

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65ShelbyClone said:
You'll definitely get more for the speed parts separately than selling them on the car. I would try to sell the car complete first, though. If you can't get what you want for it, start swapping parts. When returning the car to stock, factor in the cost of buying OEM parts you may not have and factor in your time to swap everything because that will cut into whatever extra you make by selling them separately.

Your car with mods is worth more than a stock one IMO, but don't expect to get back more than 25-50% of what the mods cost you. when I sold my '89 GT, I pulled the modified engine out (the one in my sig) and put the stock one back. I had the better part of $4,000 in it and would have been lucky to get $1000 by selling it with the car at the time. The heads alone were more than that.
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Yea see I had this same set of mind, I wasnt planning on getting back what i put into the mods, but I think with the mods and everything I could probably get 2-3k. I was thinking bringing it back to as stock as possible I might be able to pull 4-5k depending how "unmolested" it looks.
 

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You will never get back what you spend on a car. However, that is not the reason IMO to buy and build one. It is too enjoy it, not worry about the resale value. Unless you are going to park and garage the car and never drive it, forget about how much it is going to be worth if you decide to sell it. I can tell you from my own experience you are lucky to get back 5o% of the investment.

On my 87 vert I have almost 20k into it and sold it for almost 1/2 that amount. My 85 hatch had over 15K in it and only got back 6k. My 88 notch same, about 1/2 what I invested. For my current 90 vert, I don't plan on ever selling it, so I am going to build it as I want and then enjoy it. I am thinking of keeping most of the stock parts in case I ever want to put it back to stock, as you get more for the speed parts by selling them separately. I did plan on keeping it stock, as it has only 48k miles, but then again I would not be enjoying it as much.
 

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Some parts might be worth pulling, but not all of them, especially if the stock parts aren't sitting around available to you. GT40P heads? IMO, not even worth the time and aggravation of pulling them off. Maybe the cam, but cams aren't really that expensive to begin with. Intake would be pretty easy, though, maybe a throttle body, stuff like that.

As far as what modified cars bring compared to stock, I think there are a couple of things that determine that. The quality of the modifications is big, and oftentimes I see cars with big lists of parts for sale. Unfortunately, the cars always seem to have some undetermined electrical issue, a transmission problem, a misfire that won't go away, etc.

At the same time, when I see a car that has a nice appearance, the parts are well matched and desirable, and the car runs and drives well it brings a premium over an otherwise stock car.

HOWEVER, there is an exception, and that is a low mileage original. Cars with 100K+ on the odometer can be modified, stock, whatever, as long as they are clean and nice people will want them. I always chuckle, though, when I see a car with less than 50K on the odometer (legitimate, unlike most of the cars I see posted for sale) and a big string of modifications. It just kills those cars in my eyes, because they are no different than the rest of the modified crowd.
 

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Im not worried about my investment, I couldnt even count how much money i've put in this car, I am not asking if I will get my investment back, I am asking it if it is worth "restoring" it or if the effort is not worth the money.
 

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I also think you should try to sell it for what you want now and see if there are any takers. If not, stock parts are not hard to get and are not expensive these days. Some kid is going is going to like that nice sound and mods already done to it but others will see what is already mentioned above. Fast car that was beat on. What suspension do you have on there now? I would say if it is basic springs and shocks then leave it. If it is setup as a full drag suspension (4cyl springs, air bag in rear spring) then I would change that out. It will definitely show you were intent on racing it and the ride will suffer tremendously. good luck with what ever you decide.
 

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mob said:
Yea I know you're right I guess my less obvious question is, is it worth going form modded to stock to make a little extra $$$? I'm talking money/time here.
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pull the bolt ons and sell the car as stock as possible. sell the bolt ons seperate or keep them for future toys.
 

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Completely depends on the buyer. For me, i'm gonna opt for the car with the go fast goodies, and i'm gonna do my homework on the car and look it over to make sure it isn't damaged. Sure it's probably been driven hard, but that's exactly what i plan to do with it so what's the big deal?
 

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I wouldn't really consider your list of mods as "heavily modded".
Most of those parts aren't worth much on the used market and aren't worth the time or energy to remove them.
I agree with old blue, if the suspension is drag, at least put regular springs back in.

IMO, make sure it runs right and has the least amount of issues (no matter how minor) and people will take you serious when you sell it.
If it stalls, vibrates, surges people will kill you on the price.

Almost all foxes have high miles and have been beat on, so it's all about it's current condition.
 
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The problem you have is time and money going back to stock.
I agree with the 2nd post, that when a car is modded, I too assume it has been beaten...
However, when you go through all the trouble to put this car back to stock, but don't put back a few items, like smog or A/C (and the A/C is the BIG ONE), you still make it look to a perspective buyer like the car was hacked, only you took all the good parts off it to sell it.
Make sense?

If you want the big 'original', cherry Mustang price for the car, you need to install ALL the obvious parts back to stock.
Otherwise, you have just another 5.0, and won't get any more or less for it. Might as well sell it like it is. More of us would be likely to consider it with performance parts than if it is presented as a 'stock' Mustang with missing parts and original options removed (A/C).
 

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ratio411 said:
The problem you have is time and money going back to stock.
I agree with the 2nd post, that when a car is modded, I too assume it has been beaten...
However, when you go through all the trouble to put this car back to stock, but don't put back a few items, like smog or A/C (and the A/C is the BIG ONE), you still make it look to a perspective buyer like the car was hacked, only you took all the good parts off it to sell it.
Make sense?

If you want the big 'original', cherry Mustang price for the car, you need to install ALL the obvious parts back to stock.
Otherwise, you have just another 5.0, and won't get any more or less for it. Might as well sell it like it is. More of us would be likely to consider it with performance parts than if it is presented as a 'stock' Mustang with missing parts and original options removed (A/C).
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exactly
 

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What he said


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what are you thinking about buying?
 

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Interesting thread and topic. I think the total combination of parts and the car is important. Stock fox mustangs are cool, but they are really slow. Fast and hacked is... well just that. Rarely do you see a well sorted close to stock combo that can run a number w/o a charger or spray.
 

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Kind of going through this right now on a car I'm selling. Mine is a 91 GT w/AOD. Seams all the perspective buyers want a 5 spd. I have collected all the parts to make the conversion but not sure it wouldn't be better to just lower my price and sell the conversion parts. I am getting to old to roll around on the shop floor drinking ATF.
 

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Mr67Stang said:
Kind of going through this right now on a car I'm selling. Mine is a 91 GT w/AOD. Seams all the perspective buyers want a 5 spd. I have collected all the parts to make the conversion but not sure it wouldn't be better to just lower my price and sell the conversion parts. I am getting to old to roll around on the shop floor drinking ATF.
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I would sell the car as is and sell the parts. By the time you price out all of the parts, gaskets, fluids, and such I doubt you will get that back in the sale. Plus the car won't be original.

I've owned several mustangs over the years, this is my first automatic and I couldn't be happier. I'm not looking to bang every gear anymore and if you put a silverfox valve body and a good TC in in the AOD, you can eat 5spd's for lunch.
 
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