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Vapor Trap Yes/NO?????

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GT300

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I ran a search before starting a new thread and found no information on past discussions. I'd like to know how many of you removed the vapor trap and kept the stock filter or K&N?

I have a K&N air filter, and recently installed an SLP axleback. I'm leaning towards removing the vapor trap, but I heard horror stories in other forums about the engine light coming on, loss of power, etc.

Could anyone please share their experience with us??? I'm planning on doing my first oil change this weekend at 3000 miles within the past 6months I've had her, and like to remove that big "hunk of junk" while am it too!!!
 

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My HCT is gone AND I have the K&N. No problems whatsoever!
 

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what is ICAP and HCT
thanx
 
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Here is a Dyno of the H/C Trap On and Removed




Green is stock
Red is H/C Trap Removed
Purp is a CAI w/out Tune


And in case you cant read it here is the results

Green - 263.1 HP / 276.8 Torque
Red - 270.3 HP / 287.6 Torque

With the H/C Trap removed, it gave 7 HP and 10 Torque.
 

Florida Bob

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hurdlinmasta said:
Here is a Dyno of the H/C Trap On and Removed




Green is stock
Red is H/C Trap Removed
Purp is a CAI w/out Tune


And in case you cant read it here is the results

Green - 263.1 HP / 276.8 Torque
Red - 270.3 HP / 287.6 Torque

With the H/C Trap removed, it gave 7 HP and 10 Torque.
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Did you have to retune after the mods?
 
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no, those are all dynos w/out tune
 

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Interesting. That's a fairly inexpensive 7 HP gain.
 

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Picked our car up went right home to take the H/C Trap out. Opened it all up to find that it didn't have one in it. Talked with service department to make sure some where down the line they might say I should have one. They said no problem. Now has Steeda CAI.
 

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BadHenry said:
Picked our car up went right home to take the H/C Trap out. Opened it all up to find that it didn't have one in it.
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Anyone else missing the H/C trap from the factory? Maybe Ford has decided to leave it out.
 
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Hurdlinmasta, thanks I'm looking for factual information, and based on your results I'm convinced. I plan on removing the hydro carbon trap first thing tomorrow morning, and take it for a drive
 
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I'd want to see the A/F for the no-HC filter run before I'd run out to the garage and remove it. That power's bound to come from leaning out the mix, maybe dangerously. I've seen elsewhere that you really should retune after removing it.
 
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i thought those were only for the california emission laws??? like the 99-04 some came with smog pumps in the fender well and some didn't.
 
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Where is it/how do I remove it?
 
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H/C Trap is REQ in California. Other states are not. So, if yours came w/out one, then thats prob. why. If your came w/out one, but your in Cali, then iono lol.
 
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I did the same, removed the HCT and replace the filter with a K&N. No problems, a little hesitation in throttle response due to the computer trying to compensate and a little meaner sound on the down rev. I'll eventually reflash to run a cleaner setup, but it's definitely a no brainer mod.
 
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If you plan to install the K&N Intake, you need the hydrocarbon trap in order for the intake to work correctly.
http://www.kandn.com/instructions/63-2565.pdf
 

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sullygtstang said:
If you plan to install the K&N Intake, you need the hydrocarbon trap in order for the intake to work correctly.
http://www.kandn.com/instructions/63-2565.pdf
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K&N is probably just covering their a$$.

They probably had to say that to get the 'OK' as a part that is 'emissions approved'.
 

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I'm in california and mine didn't come with an H/C trap. I looked for it but it's not there. I was at the dealership when the car arrived so I know they didn't pull it out. Maybe Ford stopped putting them in at some point... my build date was 04/05/05.
Rick
 

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Yeah, with my HCT gone and the K&N, I still have yet to see a single problem and I've prolly gone about 1,000 miles. Just do it!
 
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my car was made in Nov. '04 and i cant find the trap... where is it exactly?? Maybe i dont have one???
 
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