visual differnce between 351w and others?

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i'm not having luck researching casting numbers. i have run searches and found that i should be able to identify a windsor visualy, but don't know how. i do remember the plugs on my stock 87 302 were on a slant. i've heard that the valve covers have differnt amounts of bolts? is this right? also can i bolt up a t5 to this? should i use a stock bell? thanks guys

 

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both 302 and 351 blocks are windors.(not clevelands obvioously) They both use the same heads, as far as bolt pattern and valve covers go.

 

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TIMMY2734 said:

both 302 and 351 blocks are windors.(not clevelands obvioously) They both use the same heads, as far as bolt pattern and valve covers go.

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So does the clevland and the 400.

The valve covers form a flat top on a clevland. The valves are canted (not straight up and down). The block is heavier. The intake manifold water jackts go into the block and not into the head if I remember correctly. My 351 widsor either has a W or says windsor in the lifter valley.

 

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I knew the heads were/are different, but wasnt so sure about the block. The easiet way i found is the lip right where the dizzy goes in. Really short on the 302 block. The 351 is a good inch or so taller. If you saw it, youd know what i meant. But i aint so great at painting pictures for you.

 

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You know, I got this post all wrong. I though this was w vs c. The easiest way to tell a 351 from a 302 is this. Take a 8 inch extension and a socket. If you can get it straight on the lower waterneck bolt, it is a windsor. If you have to reach behind the WP and thus cant use the extension it is a 302.

The head bolt sizes are different but the pattern is the same. Windsor has 1/2 head bolts and 302 has 7/16. Think that is right.

 

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Hopefully I don't do a typo here:

Casting Numbers, Ford Part Numbers, Bore, and Deck Heights

351W 1969-70: Casting: C9OE-B D1AZ-E, P/N: C9OZ-B, 4.00", 9.480"

351W 1971-74: Casting: D2AE-BA D1AZ-E, P/N: C9OZ-B, 4.00", 9.480" (9.503" In 1974)

351W 1971-74: Casting: D4AE-AA D1AZ-E, P/N: C9OZ-B, 4.00", 9.480" (9.503" In 1974)

351W 1975-78: Casting: D4AE-DA D1AZ-E, P/N: C9OZ-B, 4.00", 9.503"

 

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Remember that there is a 351M as well, which is similar to a Cleveland.
The easiest way to tell a 351M or 351C from 351W is that the M/C has a cast-in-block timing chest with just a flat plate for a cover, while the Windsor has a cast front cover.

 

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thanks guys, you were a big help! big thanks for the numbers. i've been looking all over for those.