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Im wanting to install a vortech v3 I was thinking either the 5-6 psi kit or the 8-10 psi kit will the long block handle 8-10. another a question is gaskets the head gaskets were replaced with stock replacement gaskets a year ago will the gaskets handle 8-10 psi and what kind of power will it put at the rear wheels.
 

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Sure will!
 

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Both kits were designed with the stock engine in mind, either choice that you make will work well with the stock engine. Any supporting parts that you have will only bolster the HP output. What are your goals with the car? Are you going to be mainly street driving or will you be racing some? Are you more focused on daily driving the car or showing the car? Do you have any modifications made to the car currently? The answers to these questions can help point you in a better direction.

We have installed blower kits on every kind of Mustang imaginable, some having very high mileage. One customer comes to mind that had 198,000 miles on his car when we installed the super charger system. Three plus years have elapsed since then and daily driving his car has added almost 40,000 more miles. The car has never had any issues as a result of the supercharger and continues to run great to this day. Just some food for thought.

Any questions at all that you might have about this, please feel free to ask!
 
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its going to be street driven with a few trips to the strip. my car has only 118,000 miles Iwas looking at the 3,000 doller kit from am its the v2 sq si trim
 

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I personally like the V3 Si vs the V2 in an application such as yours. The V3 head unit has a self contained oil lubrication system. This makes the installation much easier and will more than suit your needs. The V2 series blowers carry the same overall efficiency but are lubricated by engine oil. This will require you to drill and tap the oil pan on your engine while it is in the car. While not a huge deal, most people are intimidated by this process as there is a chance for metal shavings from drilling and tapping improperly to wind up in your oil pan. The V3 eliminates all of this and really shines over the V2 for this reason.
The SCi is a great starter kit and will work well for anyone looking to ease their way into things. I usually see most people later upgrading to the Si in short time.
My recommendation would be to see you wind up with the V3 Si kit from the get go. Check out Vortech part number 4FA218-040L You can also consider the options for finish on the head unit and piping. They are available in satin, polished or black. Expect the 8-10psi kit to increase your current hp output by about 100hp. They rate the complete V3 Si kit at 331hp vs your stock 225hp. Keep in mind that other engine modifications will only further bolster these numbers.
 
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I am on a bone stock short b- replacement felpro 4333 pt1 hg and making 435hp. mods in sig.
 
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I was on latemodel looking at v3s and saw the ho with the charge cooler why does it say there is a need for a battery relocation
 
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will adding the Anderson power pipe really add boost like they state
 

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In my opinion you don't really need the charge cooled kit unless you are looking for every last horsepower there is. The reason for the battery relocation with a charged cooled kit is due to the new location for the intercooler water tank. It is roughly the size of the battery and is mounted where the battery is currently. The battery in this instance will need to be moved to the trunk.
As far as the power pipe goes, it will certianly increase HP and you will likely see 1 to 2 lb's of additional boost. This has a lot to do with the overall design and really comes down to how efficiently they get the air to the blower. As a cheaper alternative check out UPR as they have their own version of a power pipe for your application at a more reasonable price point. @Sharad frequents the board here and can help point you in the right direction if you have any questions in particular to their products.
 
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I guess I will go with the v3 si ho what maf and injectors should I go with it says on lmr the v3 si ho kit comes with the t rex pump would I need to upgrade the pump in the intak
 

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instead of paying for the power pipe, just buy a smaller blower pulley. much cheaper
 

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jdemolet said:
I guess I will go with the v3 si ho what maf and injectors should I go with it says on lmr the v3 si ho kit comes with the t rex pump would I need to upgrade the pump in the intak
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42 lb injectors , Kirban regulator , aeromotive 340 , pro m 80 mm maf
 
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instead of paying for the power pipe, just buy a smaller blower pulley. much cheaper
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A smaller pulley will make more boost, but it's always a good idea to reduce blower inlet restrictions.
 
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does pro m have a 80 mm maf for 42 lb injectors on lmr ive seen only 38 lb
 
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should I also add the snow performance stage 2 boost cooler meth injection
 

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jdemolet said:
does pro m have a 80 mm maf for 42 lb injectors on lmr ive seen only 38 lb
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get it directly from pro m
 

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mikestang63 said:
instead of paying for the power pipe, just buy a smaller blower pulley. much cheaper
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This voids the 3 year warranty unless you use a renegade style larger crank pulley
 

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If the car is mostly stock then use the kit as it comes. Retain the stock injectors. Install the t Rex. Look to buying the UPR boost pipe. And most of all... Stay away from meth!
If you don't have any major engine changes, the kit works out of the box and includes everything you need. No tuning required. Adding things like method injection and changing injectors around will not only cost you money for parts and a tune, but are just not needed in a mostly stock application.
 
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I'm in a similar position. I just decided to boost my car for the first time. Pretty excited. I am going with the v3 sci. I recently had my car dynoed and it came in at 277 hp and 313 tq. My mod list is below, any guesses on what it will put down once the supercharger is installed?

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306 engine timing is advanced 12 degrees, fully balanced
Eagle 3" steel crank
Eagle rods
Keith Black dome pistons
Trickflow stage 3 cam
Non friction double roller timing chain
SVO GT40X heads turbo swirl valves
Comp cams valve springs and retainers
1.6 SVO roller rockers
Trickflow push rods
7 qt oil pan
Ford racing high volume oil pump
GT40 tubular intake port matched to heads
39 lb ford racing injectors with EV6 adapters
BBK fuel rails and regulator
Walbro 255 high pressure, high volume fuel pump
Accufab 70mm throttle body
Ford racing 76mm mass air meter
4" Anderson power pipe, cold air kit
Diablo chip
MSD
Milodon water pump, heater core
Mr. Cool radiator
BBK 1 5/8 equal length headers
BBK off road x pipe
40 series flowmasters
3550 tremec
pro 5.0 shifter
ford racing flywheel
centerforce dual friction clutch kit
Ford racing aluminum drive shaft
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jegster upper and lower control arms
 

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depending on what boost you run, it will add anywhere from 50-125 hp. The base kit will net about 50-75 hp. Was wondering why the rwhp was not a little higher with the stage 3 c am. Is this a stick or auto?
 
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