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95.0mark said:
If it doesn't use any oil and runs fine what are you talking about a rebuild for? Mine's got 189k and has turned out 191rwhp completely stock for my baseline dyno. These motors will last for ever if you take care of them. I'm about to add GT-40p heads, intake and RR's. Hot rod it and go!
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i just want a bran new, fresh engine, and it will give me somethin to work for this summer, lol - they have on that site 2 engines, the one is called the budget i beleive, and the one below that that is a longblock, is only $2000 dollars, and it comes with alot more cool shiit - comes w/ like a stronger crankshaft, i think forged pistons, u can add 1.7 roller rockers - some GT-40P heads, e 303 or b 303 -
If i was to order this engine, and I was going to drive it every day just about, how should I order this engine - should i add the RR's? which cam, and should i go forged pistons - thanks
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If i was to order this engine, and I was going to drive it every day just about, how should I order this engine - should i add the RR's? which cam, and should i go forged pistons - thanks
Paul Perreca
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i think id rather have a new motor than a machined one, maybe get a new motor, n before it goes in have it machined - but that would if i didnt need to drive the car, and if i had a ton of money to blow - i just feel safer w/ a new motor, more dependable - and i can beat on it every now and again w/o having to worry soooo much that its gonna blow up
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I was reading through the threads, and i noticed people associating D.S.S. with crate motors, what is D.S.S.? Is it a company, do they have a web page i can review? If so can somone post it lol thanks
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This is the motor i was thinking about buying, does anyone know of central coast mustang?
http://shop.centralcoastmustang.net/osb/itemdetails.cfm?ID=33
I think this is a good ass deal - i can afford 2100 dollars by the end of the summer, and than over the winter ill be able to put the motor in lol ID LOVE life if this was the case lol - i just wanna have that motor so i can sleep next to it lol
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http://shop.centralcoastmustang.net/osb/itemdetails.cfm?ID=33
I think this is a good ass deal - i can afford 2100 dollars by the end of the summer, and than over the winter ill be able to put the motor in lol ID LOVE life if this was the case lol - i just wanna have that motor so i can sleep next to it lol
Paul Perreca
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You had better budget for at least another 10-20% or more over the motor cost on items that your going to need to complete the job. I would feel much safer buying a used block from a salvage yard and having a local builder put it together. Your going to pay people you have no connection to some decent $$. So IF she pops when you start it (yes it can and does happen) you have to pull the damn thing and send it back for evaluation. After that you MAY recoupe your $$..may. With a salvage motor rebuild..the block is well seasoned and you have someone local to help if all goes bad. Don't forget MOST often the "new" block from these engine suppliers are using used blocks..so your NEW engine as you indicated is actually USED.
2100 for a stock block and gt40 heads? Why not get one from the junkyard for like 400? That is a complete waste of money in my opinion. For that amount, you could rebuild yours with new bearings, overbore, and everything needed. You could also get twisted wedge heads from trickflow and still be around $2100.
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Yo Pauly,,whats the verdict?Which on are you gonna go with? Did you pull up there web-site? Im sure they have more motors to choose from.
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DMAN302 said:
Very solid advice here IMO. And on top of that, you could sell the running engine out of your car for a good $350+ to a buyer that can hear it run, and run a few basic tests on it while it's in the car and running, or just keep it as a spare.
Paul Perreca said:
A machined and rebuilt engine is all you are getting from any place selling crate engines, so why not build something better yourself for less money? You are in a great situation because your engine is still running; you have time to do some research on parts, and take your time putting together an engine if that's the route you decide to choose. You say your current engine is strong down low, and runs out of steam on the top end..........that's what stockers do
,they have intakes/heads that are restrictive above 5,000 rpm. You're engine isn't 'tired' until you have poor compression, blow-by, low oil pressure, etc.
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Well,if dont have alot of knowledge on these motors there is a "ton" of reading you can do and try a combination that mite come out to the same price..These crate motors are the cheapest Ive seen anywhere!!And they are already proven combo's!! Again,the key with these crate motors are the priceNKau said:Very solid advice here IMO. And on top of that, you could sell the running engine out of your car for a good $350+ to a buyer that can hear it run, and run a few basic tests on it while it's in the car and running, or just keep it as a spare.
A machined and rebuilt engine is all you are getting from any place selling crate engines, so why not build something better yourself for less money? You are in a great situation because your engine is still running; you have time to do some research on parts, and take your time putting together an engine if that's the route you decide to choose. You say your current engine is strong down low, and runs out of steam on the top end..........that's what stockers do
Doing it the other way "will" give you some expereince,and a lttle bit of pride,so thats your call!! But Nick's rite about it dying out at high rpm's,,thats the nature of the beast!! If you open things up a bit you will unleash some restricted power that is in these motors!! These motors are good for 200,000+ miles!! But buying a set of heads,cam,and intake will cost pretty dam close to one of these brand new crate motors!! LOL,,sorry for the confusion,but there should be alot of life left in your motor!!you guys seem to have ignored the thing he said earlier about not wanting the car to be not running. sounds like it may be his only car, and he's looking to have it installed as quick as possible. Otherwise yes, i would rebuild it for cheaper. He may not have the option for any additional down time.
willys1
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Actually he did say to get a used block from a salvage yard and build it from there..Then sell his old one when he put the rebuilt one back inkj2833 said:
if ur motor runs fine and u want more umph why don't you just buy the trick flow engine kit for 2grand. then injectors, tb, maf, headers and H pipe. This is exactly what i am doing this summer. I have it all priced out for around 2800 for everything i need. and you should easily get 300+ rwhp.
willys1 said:Actually he did say to get a used block from a salvage yard and build it from there..Then sell his old one when he put the rebuilt one back in
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quit paying attention like last night maybe?? Ive just been glancing at it here and there. That is a good idea though, just get it magnafluxed. I hate junkyards
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wow, what a mixed group lol - yea i think i have come to the desicision, the mustang is my only car (i actualy have a 94 explorer but its not registered and I cannot drive it right now) to drive, everyone is saying to rebuild my motor, but by the time i pay them to take it out, boil the block bore it out, put an engine rebuild kit on it, put it back together, clean it up as its happening, put the motor back in, Well..... I dont know where u guys are from, but in my area, I am WELL over the price of a new motor lol if i buy the new motor for 2100 bucks, and spend about 500 - 800 to have it installed, i'd be better off, I did a little pricing today
Pricing is hard to do when you are a 19 year old kid that looks like he's 16. Shops dont even bother with you - assuming im just bullsshhhiting w/ them - so i dont know if they just gave me outrageous prices to get me off their ass or not, but the new motor would be much cheaper route, and sell my stock motor on ebay for like 400 bucks topps lol what do they go for? lol i dunno, i think i may even keep my motor on the side, and after i get the new motor, build that motor and learn on it - that way i wouldnt' be down and out of a ride!!!!!!!!!! YEA i love you guys lol knowledge is good, experience is KEY -
Paul Perreca
Pricing is hard to do when you are a 19 year old kid that looks like he's 16. Shops dont even bother with you - assuming im just bullsshhhiting w/ them - so i dont know if they just gave me outrageous prices to get me off their ass or not, but the new motor would be much cheaper route, and sell my stock motor on ebay for like 400 bucks topps lol what do they go for? lol i dunno, i think i may even keep my motor on the side, and after i get the new motor, build that motor and learn on it - that way i wouldnt' be down and out of a ride!!!!!!!!!! YEA i love you guys lol knowledge is good, experience is KEY -
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Paul Perreca said:
This ^ means I will tear my stock motor down myself - (not the new motor) and rebuild it peice by peice on the side, w/ MASSIVE High performance parts - than I'll have this motor just to have it lol and ill gain a brain w/ the ford 302 BEAST lol thanks
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