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whitesqual

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I recently found a mustang on craigslist for cheap. But it was about 500 miles away. The owner told me that it was not running and that it needed a fuel pump, and thats it. He sent me tons of pics of it and from the pics I thought that it looked pretty good. He said that it had been rearended but had been fixed. Well I agree to come look at it and make the 500 mile trip down to buy it. So I get there and start looking at the car. The first thing I look at is the rear end where it had been wrecked. The decklid had been straightened out but the trunk did not seal. Whoever did the body work (if you can call it that) had been snifin too much paint thinner. They used bondo on the bumper cover! Needles to say there was about a 10 inch crack in the bumper through about a 1/4 inch of bondo. At this point I am a little irritated but not pissed,,,,yet. I work my way around the car and notice some small cracks in the front bumper. I pop the hood to find wrinkles on the fender aprons and bright orange numbers writen on the intake. So it had been wrecked in the front also and has a junkyard motor. Looked underneath and could see that it had been towed by the radiator core support, which is now v shaped. Now I am getting upset. So I get my can of starting fluid and have him turn it over while I spray. Dead battery. Get jumper cables hooked up. Wont start because of a jerry rigged security system. Finaly get it fired up and runs for a few min. Has a knock. At this point I dropped my pants and leaned over the fender to take it in the a$$. I drove 500 miles for this pile. I am just sick to my stomach. So I couldnt make a trip like that and go home empty handed. So I offer him 700 and he takes it. So title in had and POS on the trailer, I am headed home.

I get it home buy a battery, rip out the security system, buy an 97 explorer motor to rebuild and put in it. Then I found a longblock out of a 94 cobra for 600 beans without the intake but only 15k on it. Couldnt pass that up. It was only about 90 miles away so I wouldn't feel bad about coming home empty handed. Picked it up. Great guy yo deal with, gave me more than he had to. Beautifull cobra also. 418 w, only 30k on the car. Soooo

The reason this is all in the tech section.....I am pulling my stock motor out and have just gotten my upper intake off and I am looking for the ait sensor on the number 5 intake runner and there is nothing there. Just a undrilled boss. I was under the impression that all 94 95 mustangs had these. Could this motor not be from a mustang? It doesnt look like there are any wires cut off or extended to the intake tubing. Do I not need to wory about it since its just not there?

Sorry bout the long post. Any help is greatly apreciated.

 

Chythar

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Congrats on joining the 94-95 5.0 club, though it sounds like you have your work cut out for you. I hope you know how to do all the body work yourself or this project will be very expensive. Got any photos of the rest of the car? Also curious, where do you live?

I have that sensor on the 91 Thunderbird engine I have in my GT right now. (The 91-93 Thunderbied 5.0 longblock is identical to the 94-95 GT 5.0, but it has the 94-95 Cobra camshaft) That sensor is NOT stock on the 94-95 Mustang 5.0. On my engine I just have the sensor still in the hole but unplugged.
 

whitesqual

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Thanks! I guess I just assumed the ait sensor would be there because they wrote about it on the explorer intake swap pages. I guess the explorer intake swap will be easier than I thought! I will have help with the body work. I have a close friend that does body work. I am located in Idaho.

I put a new fuel pump in it and it runs but knocks. Drives and shifts good and the clutch feels ok. Interior needs some tlc also.



 

revhead347

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The AIT sensor is relocated to the intake elbow just after the MAF on the 94-95 cars. It gets less heat soaked there.

Kurt
 

Chythar

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revhead347 said:
The AIT sensor is relocated to the intake elbow just after the MAF on the 94-95 cars. It gets less heat soaked there.

Kurt
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How interesting. It's an air charge temperature (ACT) sensor? Since it appeared to be the same sensor as the ECT (electronic coolant sensor) I presumed it was another coolant sensor in the intake.
 

Chythar

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whitesqual said:
Thanks! I guess I just assumed the ait sensor would be there because they wrote about it on the explorer intake swap pages. I guess the explorer intake swap will be easier than I thought! I will have help with the body work. I have a close friend that does body work. I am located in Idaho.

I put a new fuel pump in it and it runs but knocks. Drives and shifts good and the clutch feels ok. Interior needs some tlc also.
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She looks good. The rear bumper crack is actually easy to see, it looks like a really sloppy job. And a good friend of mine is from Idaho, though I don't remember which town. His family name is Fitelson.

I bought my GT as a project car, it was beat up inside & outside. So I feel your pain. But in the end, it will all be worth it because YOU did all the work.
 

revhead347

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Chythar said:
How interesting. It's an air charge temperature (ACT) sensor? Since it appeared to be the same sensor as the ECT (electronic coolant sensor) I presumed it was another coolant sensor in the intake.
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Whatever it's called. I get all the acronyms mixed up. It's not the same sensor though. When you take the two sensors out, you can see that they are very different.

Kurt
 

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Thanks for the help.

Don't think i know any Fitelson's.
 

HISSIN50

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As noted: The IAT/ACT is in the lower intake on 87-93 Mustangs. That might be what you're remembering seeing in the past.

Generally, the nomenclature I've seen with regard to the parts (which might vary amongst the tuners, as they often have their own guidelines for jargon) is that if the sensor is in the intake, it's an ACT. If it's in the airbox or air inlet hose, it's an IAT.

The ECT and IAT use thermistors.
 

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Welcome to :SNSign:

you'll be that much more satisfied with how it ends up when your all done. you'll have horrible before pics and beautiful after pics.

as a side note, IMO those taillights are
 

whitesqual

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ProKiller said:
Welcome to :SNSign:

you'll be that much more satisfied with how it ends up when your all done. you'll have horrible before pics and beautiful after pics.

as a side note, IMO those taillights are
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Haha, That was my first thought also. I already have a set of stock ones im gona put on when I do the body work. Those euro's are for sale if you want em!
 

Zero Signal

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Seems to me if you put 4 or 5k into the car, you'd have a pretty nice ride lined up for pretty cheap still. It looks suprisingly decent for what you paid.
 
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