what is concourse correct?

[runawayabc123]

If I wanted to build an engine or a car to "concourse" (I hope I spelled that right) where would I find said concourse correct specifications?

Does someone sell a book, or may be a website somewhere?

Someone has to have a check list or something.

I am looking for the 65 model year.

P.S. I tried searching the forums for "concourse correct" and I didn't find much other than posts of people afraid to make large changes.

Thanks.

 

[CochinoFilipino]

http://www.geocities.com/a65ragtop/VM_FAQ/concours/

 

[runawayabc123]

I am noticing a lack of replies to this thread.

Is this just not well known information? An out of print book?

Or is this more like the shelby vin, where you keep it unknown so you can tell if it is turly a fake or not?

I am looking for some help on this, even if it is a "I don't know either." To which I would reply how would anyone know if anything were original anymore, as long as it was a somewhat convincing?

I am getting discouraged.

 

[runawayabc123]

I guess I should have waited a few extra minutes for that last post.

That link does help, but I guess what I am looking for is more of a:
this engine came with these parts from this date range
unless option X was included, then it had this set of parts.
with a Note of if sold in CA, put this part on it to make it go slow for emissions. (pardon my poor humor if you didn't find that funny)

I guess I am looking for the techinical specs.

 

[65fastbackresto]

Try a Year One catalog

They have listings on some of the parts your looking for.

 

[reenmachine]

You need to contact the Mustang Club of America (MCA). They set the judging standards and can provide you with the information you need. I haven't looked in a while, but I'm pretty sure there are books out there that lay it all out. It's certainly not a secret, and all of the facts have been well known for a long time.

Good luck!

 

[reenmachine]

This one looks like it has all the info:

http://www.amazon.com/Original-Must...81/ref=si3_rdr_bb_product/103-6351411-6141452

 

[Big_B]

The lack of reponses is probably due to two things: It's probably safe to say that the majority of cars people here on stangnet have are either A) highly modified or B) supremely f'd up do to time and the elements. In the case of the former they are looking at performance upgrades, and in the latter they are trying to make the car driveable again. I'm definitely not saying it is out of the realm to talk about concourse stuff here, I'm just saying it doesn't seem to have a big focus and following.

I would suggest you try and make some car shows. I see a lot of original type restos at shows lately, and even some low mileage all original cars. Either way that would give you an up close view of how they are supposed to look.

edit: also, depending on how far out of concourse it is, I would suggest the shop manual as it has a lot of diagrams to different systems (i.e. the emissions) that show what is supposed to be there.

 

[GNN60GT500]

concours has lost popularity over the last 10 years thats why

 

[runawayabc123]

Thanks for the great replies and links.

It all kind of goes like this: I have bought about 6 books. Some ok, other worthless picture books. The better ones say how everything goes together and some block casting numbers.

I am looking for the whole grouping of parts that should go together. I have yet to find a source that will tell me what group of parts by part number/casting codes goes together.

Incase you didn't read my older posts, I have 65 with a 66 engine in it. I want to go vintage and correct as possible. And, I am kind of wondering if it is even possible for a reasonable amount of money (I am happy with a correct block/heads/intake and near 65 A code 289 specs). Sometimes I think I should order up a new moter and OD trany, but the resale-ability of those cars seems poor in comparison (I don't plan on selling it, but some day someone will for whatever reason).

 

[chromedog]

the concours competetion is so tough that the judges have gotten to the point that they check the tires for proper "timing" ( valve stem pointed at the same spot on each tire) this is not being anal, it is because there are so many 100 point cars at a mca grand national show, they need points to whittle down the competition. i guess my point is, if you want a 100 point car for resale, or your own satisfaction, go for it, but if you want to compete to mca standards, either build for modified class (my choice) of be prepaired for some STIFF competition.

 

[68RCodeConv]

"Correct" concours parts, paint marks and the color of the underneath primer all vary from plant to plant (San Jose, Dearborn, New Jersey). There is not any single one "correct" way to do any specific car.

On top of that at any given show the person judging your car may have his own notion of what "correct" is. So be prepared for some inconsistency.