Ok ..well here a the weights by a Certified Truck /Car shipping company S197..3,476 and the Mach 3,469 .No it doesn't if you were to ACTUALLY check, you would see that a Mach 1 and a S197 GT are quite close in weight with the S197 being the LIGHTER car...
I have posted in the past quite a few web links that had the Curb Weights for 03 - 04 Mach 1's and S197 GT listed...
Ok ..well here a the weights by a Certified Truck /Car shipping company S197..3,476 and the Mach 3,469 .:Granted its only 7lbs but lighter . Thats the only thing you disagree with out of the 10 ?
10 Reasons I bought a mach and not an S197
1) Stupid Handbrake placement
2) Fake gas cap
3) Cartoon Dash cant see the Guages
4) Lousy Brakes
5) Biggy -size body
6) 2 piece Driveshaft
7) Heavy car
8) Dealer mark-up a joke
9) Drive by wire throttle Nanny
10) Slower than a Mach Sotck or Mod for mod
Well if you want me to completely dissect it...
1) Where were they supposed to put the hand brake?
2) Granted
3) My Colour option is pretty cool if you ask me
4) Brakes work fine, as good as a Mach 1.
5) More comfortable that any SN95
6) Granted
7) Not as heavy as many people think
8) Ordered mine in November 2004, paid $2000.00 BELOW MSRP.
9) Works fine, cleaner looking engine bay.
10) Disagree, no local Mach 1 has gone faster/quicker than me stock or mod for mod...
Now youre in Denial...but come to N.C. and Ill disprove youre # 10 myself without the bottle ! Btw I showed you my dyno sheets and times so wheres youres ..????????
Nitto's 275/40/17's
Ford Racing 4:30 Gears
PHP Spacer
Hurst Line Lock
DiabloSport Predator
Custom X-pipe
Flowmaster 40 Series
K&N Aircharger (CAI
SS Inserts
Steeda Tri-Ax Shifter
MGW Accessories
AutoMeter - Air/fuel, Volts, D-Pic
NGK Iridium Spark Plugs
Bullit Fuel Door
Custom Ford Racing Decals
[Best E.T 13.7 at 103 mph with 3:55's in
Best E.T 13.5 at 101mph...with 4:30's in
So are you saying you're here to participate in some objective conversation with fellow members of the Mustang community, or are you just here from another board to troll for trouble by enticing unneeded arguments?Haha got you Guys ! See another person on this site said all the S197 guys here were ganging up on his Mach and he was out numbered . So he asked for help on the Mach site ...I posted the list there too with mixed results .But all the Numbers, Times and Dynos are real . Just stirring things up a bit ! So to see who is real ..:Track:
Hey .So are you saying you're here to participate in some objective conversation with fellow members of the Mustang community, or are you just here from another board to troll for trouble by enticing unneeded arguments?
If you're here to talk Mustangs and can remain civil, stick around and have fun. There’s plenty to read here and a great bunch of guys to learn from and shoot the bull with. If your plans are to become disrespectful and antagonistic for no other reason than to "stick it to the S197 crowd", I'm afraid I'm going to have to show you the door!
The choice is yours my friend.
Hey ...it is in all good fun until the above poster say he can outrun every Mach hes ever seen.Which we all know is wrong including you. Im not a newbe in the Mustang world ..owned 5...or unknowing ...Certified Ford Tech. Not here lookin for a fight but if YOU let one of youre own members call YOUR car a POS. Now thats Disrespect! But that seems to be the way alot of S197guys try to earn it !Door open or closed ?
Still in Denial .Would you like a towel for your tears?
I have seen videos of Mach 1 that would destroy my car. That said, the FACT remains that NO local Mach 1 that I have seen or heard about has gone faster/quicker than me and you don't like it.
Still in Denial ..huh ok.. . you win...in youre Mind ....see Moderator I told ya !
See TGJ.... even the Mod Brian...says you and this guy are wrong.So :Zip2:I just had to see youreIf you ran quicker in your GT than you did in your Mach 1, then it was by a miniscule amount at best. The cars as stated over and over and over again are too close performance wise to really dedicate a winner one way or the other. To suggest otherwise proves ones ignorance more than anything. Making a statement like "made my '04 mach 1 look like a toy, even when it was stock." insinuates that your GT MURDERED your Mach 1. And if this is the case, then the only logical conclusion one could derive from this statement is that you couldn't drive your Mach for ****.
The S197 tends to be the easier car to get out of the hole between the two and as such the "seat of the pants meter" may fool owners into thinking the GT the quicker of the two. But the Mach's torquier bottom end and top end charge seems to make up the difference between the two by the time they get to the finish line in any case.
See TGJ.... even the Mod Brian...says you and this guy are wrong.So :Zip2:I just had to see youremyself Bye !
Yeah..At least the S197 Forum here ..... Parting shot for ya !
Anyone know about what rear wheel hp these cars are putting out stock? Most Mach's were good for about 270 or so and I am curious how the 3 valve will compare both numerically and on the street.
Wow that was alot to read...just wanted to point out
I sold my 1997 Cobra which was the same spec motor as the Mach 1, from what i had seen and could feel. and i can sure as hell say the Cobra was a more Vicious car...Bone stock comparison to my 08 bone stock, i think i would have given it to the 4v. But i credit alot of the "seat of the pants meter" to the 3.73 stock gears in the cobra. I think it would have been a close race bone stock but going to the 4v in the end, but the top end speed going to the s197
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