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what to do for lowering my 2002GT + pics?

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CdnNavybob

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This whole question depends a lot on whether you want looks or performance. Most of the springs labeled "Sport" actually lower the Mustang too far and do more harm than good to the suspension and steering geometry. Most of the guys who need serious cornering performance, i.e. autocrossers, get the bullitt kit, which is FMS C springs and matched shocks and struts.

With a small drop in ride height, you will be able to maintain proper alignment without CC plates, however our suspension is so limited without them that they're a good idea anyway. The MM double your available castor from 2 degrees to 4, which means better stability at high speeds and under braking.

Another factor, as was mentioned is bumpsteer. Lowering the car at all will change the angle of the tie rods, increasing bumpsteer, something the Mustang desn't need more of. A bumpsteer kit, or more accurately, adjustable tie rod ends, will allow you to correct the position of the tie rods, correcting any bumpsteer you added by lowering the car. Steeda sells a kit with both the adjustable tie rods ends and their X2 balls joints, another part that helps correct the a-arm geometry after lowering. I don't understand it that much, but everybody who uses it says it works well.

The other thing that was mentioned was rack bushings. Again, only a performance issue. If you're going to be ripping around a track or something, get MM off-set aluminum steering rack bushings. Otherwise you can get away without it.

So to make a long post short:

If you're going for looks, get the springs and get the CC plates if you need them for a proper alignement.

If you're going for performance, Springs, shocks and struts, cc plates, bumpsteer kit, X2 ball joints, off set steering rack bushings and if you don't already have them, subframe connectors. All the extra cornering ability will come through much better with a stiffer chassis.

For further explanation:
http://www.miracerros.com/mustang/t_suspension.htm
 
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H&Rs here, and they really do drop it low. The vert springs are meant to drop further than their coupe springs for some reason though. Struts are for older 87-95 stangs (or something), because they are 1" shorter than our stock struts and are a direct replacement. I did it that way because thats the way maximum motorsports do it.



 
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007 said:
H&Rs here, and they really do drop it low. The vert springs are meant to drop further than their coupe springs for some reason though. QUOTE]

007... I have an '02 GT Vert. The H&R Vert springs have a pretty heavy spring rate. How did they affect the ride quality? I live in Mich and have to deal with some bad roads and don't want to be bounced out of the saddle.

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Jakes said:
007 said:
H&Rs here, and they really do drop it low. The vert springs are meant to drop further than their coupe springs for some reason though. QUOTE]

007... I have an '02 GT Vert. The H&R Vert springs have a pretty heavy spring rate. How did they affect the ride quality? I live in Mich and have to deal with some bad roads and don't want to be bounced out of the saddle.

....Jakes
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Its not the ride you need to worry about, its how low the car is... I have to be really really careful on bad roads, and scrape the K member fairly regularly. I have scraped my left cat a tiny bit on a speed bump, but mostly i scrape the k member... mostly. Its a bit frustrating when your driving through a city with crappy roads and you have to be SO careful. You may want to consider Eibachs because the drop is not quite so extreme. The front drop with the H&Rs is meant to be 2" but the thing is slammed.
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Here's what a set of coilovers look like on my car.

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i lowered mine with Sportlines. Looks great. But If I'm going to do it again, I'll prolly go with H&R. Like someone said, I think sportline lowers the car too much and it actually upsets the handling geometry. If your looking to get something look good coming down the road at 20 mph, sport line is the way to go(with 18" wheel ofcourse ), but if your looking to get more handling, I say H&R is the way to go.

here are the pics

Mity's car(sportline, w/o isorater)
front shot(sorry for not so clean pics)



by the way, whats wth google ads on every thread?
 
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first off, Hoppy, i about got a boner when i saw yur car!! but i am more going for look over performance. i will never see a road corse, or track, and i am more concerned about ride quality. i live in a n old "horse town" called norco, and the streets havent been re-done in over 15 years... anyways, how much was the final cost for everyones lowering jobs? thanks for all the info, i dont kno what i would do without stangnet

P.S. everyones cars look amazing
 
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got pics on my website with H&R supersports.....i dunno how to post pics i tried on test thing but didnt work right lol
 
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mity2 said:
i lowered mine with Sportlines. Looks great. But If I'm going to do it again, I'll prolly go with H&R. Like someone said, I think sportline lowers the car too much and it actually upsets the handling geometry. If your looking to get something look good coming down the road at 20 mph, sport line is the way to go(with 18" wheel ofcourse ), but if your looking to get more handling, I say H&R is the way to go.

here are the pics

Mity's car(sportline, w/o isorater)
front shot(sorry for not so clean pics)



by the way, whats wth google ads on every thread?
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Just to throw in another option, the Eibach Pro-Kit does not lower the car as much as the Sportlines. According to Eibach the Pro-Kit lowers the car 1.0-1.5" whereas the Sportlines lower 1.7-2.3".

Me, I am going with the Bullitt springs, shocks and struts along with an Eibach anti-roll kit and either MM full length subrames or the full Kenny Brown setup. If I ever decide to go with another set of springs it would probably be the Pro-Kit.
 
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Hey Chris, I really like the stance of your car. How is the ride?
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If you were refering to me, it handles awesome. Personally I think there is too much body roll. I have my s/s on setting five (stiff) and it rides barely ruffer than stock, just sits lower and corners alot better. I had to trim out a piece of inner fender, due to tire rub, but worth the stance.
 
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can anyone offer any quotes on how much everything would be (lowering kit+cc plates and any other hardware) including installation? thanks
 
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