What would cause this? Chip problem..

[The Green GT]

Ok, I got Wes (Stanger007) to program me a chip from www.moates.net. When I put it it I loved it. The car stayed cooler because the fan settings were changed, the shift retard made a HUGE difference.

Not the problem. The other night I went to leave a friends house and the car started, then died and would not start again. I smelled like it was really rich. I still had the comp sitting on the ground so I pulled the chip out and it started. Then I put it back, and it wouldnt start. I had something over it so no metal would touch it too.

I just got home from work and plugged it back in and it works fine now. I just want to find out why it was doing that before I put the CPU back in the kickpanel (if I can lol)

 

[Stanger007]

The only reason I can think it would do that is a shoddy connection on the J3 port. Like we talked about earlier, that connection has to be surgically clean and the chip pressed on well. With the PCM on the floor it could have got bumped around. Be sure the key is off (can't hurt either if negative battery cable is pulled) when you are messing with the chip so that nothing gets shorted out.

Now enjoy that mackin' shift retard, better spark tables, etc

Wes

 

[The Green GT]

I just went to leave with the chip in and it wouldnt start again. It was hot at HELL in my car if that matters. And when I pulled it and started it, it blew a cloud of blue (oil) smoke. Besides that it runs fine.

I have to work on a paper tonight, bit tomorrow, Ill pull the comp again and clean it some more. and send you the pics you wanted.

 

[Stanger007]

Heat shouldn't affect it - check on the chip for any physical damage from trying to get it back into the kickpanel, something could have gotten loose there?

If that one seems to be bad, we'll burn ya up another one and see if the is a physical problem with the chip. I'll run it on my car for a few days to see if I have any issues.

Sounds good on the pics.

 

[The Green GT]

Im pretty sure it didnt get messed up physically. I had a card over it and the card wasnt touched. And the card went down in the cpu a little, so it couldnt ground itself on the CPU case.

Im betting its just the connection.

 

[The Green GT]

What works better than alcohol to clean the crap off the J3 port?

Everclear? lol

 

[Stanger007]

WASTE OF EVERCLEAR!!! :-D

I've had good luck using alcohol and a qtip then going over it with a pencil eraser.

Anyone else got a favorite method?

 

[The Green GT]

Ill try the eraser.

 

[The Green GT]

The eraser is getting alot of crap off that I didnt know was there. Especially on thje back side where its harder too get to.

Wes, do you need a pic of the EEC opened up too?

 

[The Green GT]

Cleaned the piss out of it, and it still wont start.

After trying to start it a few times it smells the gas really strong.

It still works fine w/o the chip though.

 

[Stanger007]

I'll give ya a call.

 

[gcomfx.com]

My computer has been laying out of the kick panel for months now. No issues, but mine already had a chip in it. So it had been cleaned before. As a matter of fact it was cleaned pretty rough.

My new chip came with a piece of 3M green pad for cleaning if that helps any.

 

[The Green GT]

Ill get some of that from work tomorrow and continue on like 3 hours of cleaning. lol

In the mean time, Wes is sending me another chip, and Ill send this one back to see if anything is wrong w/ it.

 

[vristang]

Did you and Wes get this sorted out?

Maybe some of that goo that ford uses to cover the J3 terminals worked its way into the chip plug?


hope you sorted it out,
jason

 

[Stanger007]

The new chip worked out great for him.

The chip that was giving him problems just wasn't making good contact on the J3 - I've sent that same chip off to someone else and it has not had any of the same symptoms.

Wes

 

[The Green GT]

Yea, the one we swapped in has had zero problems so far.