What's it take to beat a Mach1

armymandan · May 17, 2004

geesh..... you guys are lucky!!!

if you ever see the 01 Bullitt black with a wing on the back you better not step up in the mach unless you can turn 11's... cause i'm gonna slap that ass all over the road.... but then again, i have some pretty good mods, and i dident spend as much as you guys did on your stock car!!!

"go figure"!

MachOut · May 17, 2004

armymandan said:
if you ever see the 01 Bullitt black with a wing on the back you better not step up in the mach unless you can turn 11's... cause i'm gonna slap that ass all over the road.... but then again, i have some pretty good mods, and i dident spend as much as you guys did on your stock car!!!

"go figure"!

Blue 98 GT · May 17, 2004

i saw a PI head kit on ebaymotors for $1320. supposedly, it's a complete kit. I don't know what parts are used (new/used heads, cheapo gaskets) but that's the best price I've seen to date. www.ebaymotors.com. search "PI head". the $1320 was buy-it-now price.

Blev... what's your 1/4 time?

MAC[H]Z · May 17, 2004

armymandan said:
if you ever see the 01 Bullitt black with a wing on the back you better not step up in the mach unless you can turn 11's... cause i'm gonna slap that ass all over the road.... but then again, i have some pretty good mods, and i dident spend as much as you guys did on your stock car!!!

"go figure"!

Ok,,, I'll go out and buy a early 90's fox and mod the crap out of it run in the 10's and still have less than you do in your car....

StangLou · May 17, 2004

Man thats some nice torque you got there TR03
I pretty much have every bolt on around besides the tb/plenum comboo on my GT. I dont think I could duplicate those times without some serious tires, and amazing driving ability!!!
Nice #'s man

mogs01gt · May 17, 2004

16% is way to high. Its not like the autos have a rock crusher or a art carr in it. Its more around 14%-15%. I doubt my 309rwhp is over 350 at the fly at 15%. Its more closer to 12% for sticks or I would say no higher than 14% on autos.

CatmanJJ · May 17, 2004

TR03Mach1 said:
The operative phrase being "full bolt ons, 4.10's and tires" CatmanJJ! Never said it couldn't be done, but it's gonna take a whole lot more than a little of this, and some of that. It's gonna take a boatload of this, and whole bunch of that, which equals money and parts.

Exactly, when I say full bolt ons, that's pullies, chip, C&L intake plenum, 75mm TB, denscharger CAI (with TB tube), aluminum driveshaft, 4.10s, Pro 5.0, bassani X, magnaflow catback, and DRs maybe another mod or 2 I might be leaving out vs me stock with just 500 miles on the ticker. That's from a dig and he's a much better drag racer then me. If/when I would get ahead I would just keep pullin and he couldn't catch me.

Blev · May 17, 2004

Blue 98 GT said:
i saw a PI head kit on ebaymotors for $1320. supposedly, it's a complete kit. I don't know what parts are used (new/used heads, cheapo gaskets) but that's the best price I've seen to date. www.ebaymotors.com. search "PI head". the $1320 was buy-it-now price.

Blev... what's your 1/4 time?

Still trying to find my way to the track.

hotmustang331 · May 17, 2004

Blev said:
I'm going to hire you next time I want to roast someones arse!!

I just want to add that I have total respect for Mach's, I just can't stand this kid.

Take another look,he really didnt get jack on me And that second link has nothing to do with pistons vs rods but I have to admit that I did not care/realize that the pistons were stronger than rods,but the whole time I was talking about the rings going later on...So you should pick someone else that can actually prove a point LOL.Anyways glad to see your staying away fron nitrous(think thats whats I read),you will be glad you did.Now about the pistons and rods going,you really shouldnt have to worry about that unless your shooting a 200-400 shot or unless you have detination with almost any amount.You rwally should have the heads and intake fully p&p,and have them put in even bigger valves if they can.Also go with a large profile camshaft,and make shure that you have freeflowing exhast,and a non restrictive intake to get the full power out of the cam.Then that mach 1 is

StngStr · May 17, 2004

TR03Mach1 said:
The operative phrase being "full bolt ons, 4.10's and tires" CatmanJJ! Never said it couldn't be done, but it's gonna take a whole lot more than a little of this, and some of that. It's gonna take a boatload of this, and whole bunch of that, which equals money and parts.

Not really a "boatload of this, and a whole bunch of that, which equals money and parts."

The time in my sig corrects to 13.04@104.54. This is with barely over $1000 in mods.

4.10's
o/r X
magnapacks
Timing Adjuster
Pulleys
sticky tires (1.81 60 ft )

$1,118 total mods = 13.12@103.8 (13.04@104.54 corrected)

EDIT: My bad...I just noticed he's in a non-PI car.

Blev · May 17, 2004

StngStr said:
EDIT: My bad...I just noticed he's in a non-PI car.

Yeah, I'm not PI All the more reason I want to own his arse!! So maybe I will have a great set of heads and cams, but he won't know that!!

GinoGT · May 17, 2004

You should look around the classified sections of the different Mustang/Ford forums. Once in a while somebody will sell some P&P PI heads. The PI swap is going to be a nice gain for your car, a swap from stock NPI to some P&P PI with aftermarket cams would be a HUGE gain. It would bring you up to, if not a little higher than a stock Mach 1's power numbers.

Joel's98GT · May 17, 2004

hotmustang331 said:
Take another look,he really didnt get jack on me

No you do a good enough job of that on your own, ,the links I previously posted were to show everyone how much you try to hand out misinformation, that is all. You do a good job of proving that point for me.

Now i'll try to keep the words small for you. there is nothing wrong with spraying a stock 4.6L as long as you are careful and it is tuned properly and safety precausions are taken. Spray is No worse for a stock engine than turbo or supercharging, if it's done wrong the motor is going to fail.

for every example of "my buddy did this" and "my inbread mechanic says that" I could just as easlily show you 11 second near stock GT's who's motors are alive and well.

Mike has been spraying a 100 hp wet NX kit for about 2 years now.
http://www.mustang-x.com/info/viewer-rides/01-03-03.html

11.72@114.6 daily driver
http://www.mustangworld.com/forums/member.php?s=&action=getinfo&userid=15174

how about 10+ people that agree with me.
http://forums.modulardepot.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=25087

good thread on N2O safety
http://www.fordpower.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=48543

GinoGT · May 17, 2004

again

hotmustang331 · May 18, 2004

Joel's98GT said:
No you do a good enough job of that on your own, ,the links I previously posted were to show everyone how much you try to hand out misinformation, that is all. You do a good job of proving that point for me.

Now i'll try to keep the words small for you. there is nothing wrong with spraying a stock 4.6L as long as you are careful and it is tuned properly and safety precausions are taken. Spray is No worse for a stock engine than turbo or supercharging, if it's done wrong the motor is going to fail.

for every example of "my buddy did this" and "my inbread mechanic says that" I could just as easlily show you 11 second near stock GT's who's motors are alive and well.

Mike has been spraying a 100 hp wet NX kit for about 2 years now.
http://www.mustang-x.com/info/viewer-rides/01-03-03.html

11.72@114.6 daily driver
http://www.mustangworld.com/forums/member.php?s=&action=getinfo&userid=15174

how about 10+ people that agree with me.
http://forums.modulardepot.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=25087

good thread on N2O safety
http://www.fordpower.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=48543

Hmmm only 2 examples?Guess that proves my point if thats all you can find.Anyways for the 3rd or whatever time,I am saying that it CAN and if used enough will screw up your engine,especially an old one,but like I said noone knows when it will.Yes there are quite a few guys who run nitrous with no problems,but there are much more who have problems with it.Its really all a matter of opinion and personal experience.DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT?Look I have proved my point,and those links prove nothing,and I clearly stated that thats what HE told me so I did NOT know if it was true.I was just trying to help out.Now look at this,do you see nitrous guys having faster times than people with prochargers?NO,unless they do major work to the engine.There is one guy who has a 4.6 running 10.32 I believe and it is ,"lightly modded".To get nitrous cars to run like that,you need close to a 400 shot,which will destroy a stock block 4.6L within a few chots ifnot the first,so do not tell me that it is just as safe.Take a look at kennebell,405 HP @ wheels with basically stock 4.6 with 9PSI,and can go to 12 while still legal I believe.Now look at nitrous,the biggest SAFE HP I have seen is 150 HP.Now lets be nice here and say we give the GT 250 HP at the wheels stock or near it.Now plus 150 is 400 @ wheels.Still 5 off from 405 whith an engine that would make around 235 with the catback they had on,so even if it was JUST as reliable,it doesnt get the HP like a SC.Anyways it does not make a difference,cuz you like nitrous and seen good results and I like N/A motors and SC motors and have seen pretty much good with both.So I say we act like men and stop wasting time trying to prove a point that will not change either of our minds Truce?

GinoGT · May 18, 2004

Nitrous makes insane amounts of torque.

Stop bench racing

Are you actually trying to make an argument with those comparisons? Okay, let's just disregard weather conditions, track prep, race weight, suspension set up, driver skill, etc. to make it look like your comparison actually has any weight.

Joel's98GT · May 18, 2004

hotmustang331 said:
Hmmm only 2 examples?Guess that proves my point if thats all you can find.Anyways for the 3rd or whatever time,I am saying that it CAN and if used enough will screw up your engine,especially an old one,but like I said noone knows when it will.Yes there are quite a few guys who run nitrous with no problems,but there are much more who have problems with it.Its really all a matter of opinion and personal experience.DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT?Look I have proved my point,and those links prove nothing,and I clearly stated that thats what HE told me so I did NOT know if it was true.I was just trying to help out.Now look at this,do you see nitrous guys having faster times than people with prochargers?NO,unless they do major work to the engine.There is one guy who has a 4.6 running 10.32 I believe and it is ,"lightly modded".To get nitrous cars to run like that,you need close to a 400 shot,which will destroy a stock block 4.6L within a few chots ifnot the first,so do not tell me that it is just as safe.Take a look at kennebell,405 HP @ wheels with basically stock 4.6 with 9PSI,and can go to 12 while still legal I believe.Now look at nitrous,the biggest SAFE HP I have seen is 150 HP.Now lets be nice here and say we give the GT 250 HP at the wheels stock or near it.Now plus 150 is 400 @ wheels.Still 5 off from 405 whith an engine that would make around 235 with the catback they had on,so even if it was JUST as reliable,it doesnt get the HP like a SC.Anyways it does not make a difference,cuz you like nitrous and seen good results and I like N/A motors and SC motors and have seen pretty much good with both.So I say we act like men and stop wasting time trying to prove a point that will not change either of our minds Truce?

When all else fails break out the ricer math

i can site 20+ stock block N20 cars making great times but don't see the point in wasting my time, when all you have to do is go to corral or modular depot and look at guys posting every day using it. Fact is that N20 does the same exact thing as a supercharger, it's an oxygen carrier that allows you to use more fuel to make power, most people that hurt thier motor don't run the right fuel, sprayed at to low RPM (puddling), sprayed for too long, sprayed too much.

i'm done with you, go away.

mustangman70 · May 18, 2004

GUYS lets be smart here. see i USED to be like hotmustang331. so i do respect him on his stance at the issue. I HATED N20 and was aginst it 100 percent.........UNTILL i went for a ride in a juiced car OMG it was sick. He had a 69 camaro, FULLY built 350 with a 250 shot, I am not kidding when i say it feels like someone rear-ends you going 50. After thati was hooked I for one will say IT IS IN THE TUNE and how the car is setup. and i DARE anyone to challenge me. I put an edelbrock 100 shot on my 100k miles plus 1970 mustang that never had been rebuilt, with the STOCK bottem end and nothing but a mere fuel pump. and i ATE alot of cars up for breakfast. It was. It was tuned about once a week (before racing) I pushed at least 2 bottles through the car a month (usually one n20 run at the local races on sat nights) and i wanted to go to a 150. But 150 is TOO much for a stock engine. I have learned alot from nitrous junkies at the races. and if you compensate the timing for the juice, dont spray evereyday going to get grocerys lol...HOWEVER i will say my trannie needed a rebuild after about 3 months of racing (with the spray) but if you ara RACING your car SOMETHING will brak sooner or later spraying or not! and the bottem line is.....Its a power adder, just the same as turbo's S/C's whatever. Who else can find ANY way to get 100 HP for under 550 bucks?

stangluver02 · May 18, 2004

Hotmustang331, you obvioulsly dont know what the hell you are talking about. I have never heard of a stock 99+ gt dyno 250 more like 225 - 230 stock. And Im pretty sure that gt you were talking about that ran 10.32 "lightly modded" was on 15 pounds of boost via a procharger. It was also a car that procharger themselves said was lightly modded, ( They use it in their ads in mmff) they never disclosed whether or not it was forged, built rear, etc. And to run 15 pounds of boost on a gt isnt cheap and afterward you wont be lightly modded. So the next time you feel like running around and telling people track times on cars that you have know idea how modded they actually are, and are just repeating what you read in a magazine realize that a lot of people here read them as well. All power adders can damage your engine if used improperly.

Why dont you go buy a civic, put a wing on it and some gay stickers and go talk s**t to people at auto zone you closet ricer.

kirkyg · May 18, 2004

Joel's98GT said:
When all else fails break out the ricer math

i can site 20+ stock block N20 cars making great times but don't see the point in wasting my time, when all you have to do is go to corral or modular depot and look at guys posting every day using it. Fact is that N20 does the same exact thing as a supercharger, it's an oxygen carrier that allows you to use more fuel to make power, most people that hurt thier motor don't run the right fuel, sprayed at to low RPM (puddling), sprayed for too long, sprayed too much.

i'm done with you, go away.

Yes but if your honest with yourself its 10x easier to blow up your engine with a nitrous setup. There are just too many things you have to look out for with nitrous that can go wrong. With a supercharger all you need is a good tune and good fuel and you just drive.

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