Which Headers to go with?!?!?!

Netou · Jun 19, 2006

Well im a noobie in finding out whats best for my car since i just got my 67 hb 3 weeks ago...

i rebuilt the whole engine and tranny...and right now im currently working in replacing the rear end gears with new ones...

right now it has the stock exhaust mani and im wanting to know whats the best headers for this car? it has a 289 engine, all bone stock.....cant seem to find the right one...

and i have power steering if that helps out...

TANX!!!

Ronstang · Jun 19, 2006

For a bone stock 289 with modest goals for the long term you simply cannot go wrong with a set of Tri-Ys. Add a good 4 barrel carb and ignition and you will have a nice reliable fun to drive car that gets decent economy when you foot is out of it.

If you have more lofty HP goals in the future then the Hooker Comps are about the best bang for the buck decently priced header that delivers good performance. If you don't plan on larger heads/cam in the future then stick with the Tri-Ys.

rbohm · Jun 20, 2006

Ronstang said:
For a bone stock 289 with modest goals for the long term you simply cannot go wrong with a set of Tri-Ys. Add a good 4 barrel carb and ignition and you will have a nice reliable fun to drive car that gets decent economy when you foot is out of it.

If you have more lofty HP goals in the future then the Hooker Comps are about the best bang for the buck decently priced header that delivers good performance. If you don't plan on larger heads/cam in the future then stick with the Tri-Ys.

cant go wrong with that advice. if you can find one, i recomend using the autolite 4100 4bbl carb. i had one on my mustang years ago and it would turn out 25mpg on the freeway, and that was when i had the wrong style cam in the car. i figure my new 289 will turn out even better mileage with the same carb when it gets built.

1320stang · Jun 20, 2006

What is a 67 hb? Is that a typo and it's a fb as in fastback?

Man, rebuilding the engine and tranny in 3 weeks is flying.

I agree with the Tri-y's and 4100 advice and do a Pertronix at the minimum.

Netou · Jun 20, 2006

awsome...tanx

wheres a good place to get the Tri-ys

well i ordered all the parts i would need before i opened up the engine...and the tranny was sent off to get rebuilt at a shop since im not that good with these trannys...

im not really lookin into power (just yet) just want something that will sound good and look good under the engine bay...

any problems with the clearance from the driver side header and the power steering?

AdamInChains · Jun 20, 2006

Not completely sure about 67's, but with a 65 you need to move the power steering to fit the tri-y's. I got a set of Hedman shorty headers and they're really nice.

t_chelle16 · Jun 20, 2006

I got a set of ceramic coated Flowtechs a few years ago. They're really nice (especially being ceramic coated) and only cost $230 special ordered through Autozone.

-Chelle

AdamInChains · Jun 20, 2006

230's a very good deal for ceramic coated. mine are coated and i paid over $500

jbuening · Jun 20, 2006

t_chelle16 said:
I got a set of ceramic coated Flowtechs a few years ago. They're really nice (especially being ceramic coated) and only cost $230 special ordered through Autozone.

-Chelle

IIRC, Hooker charges that much just to ceramic coat their headers and then you have to pay the full regular price of the headers on top of that. That is a sweet price. Has the ceramic coating lasted?

t_chelle16 · Jun 20, 2006

Well, I put them on the car back in 2002, drove it for about 1 to 1 1/2 years and it's been sitting since. I haven't really looked them over recently, but I'll try to look at them tomorrow. I don't expect to find anything wrong with them, though.

-Chelle

Netou · Jun 20, 2006

well i found the headers on ebay for around $140 shipped....and they also sell the same headers with ceramis coating for $240 shipped...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1965...ewItemQQcategoryZ33631QQitemZ8077170352QQrdZ1

are these it??? any1 have any experience with cj pony parts?

Dothang67 · Jun 20, 2006

cj pony parts is a big mustang store where you can find almost anything for your pony. you cant go wrong with them

dawtips · Jun 21, 2006

i bought my '69 gas tank kit from cjponyparts, among other things, they are quality imo

Jester67 · Jun 21, 2006

I agree CJponyparts.com is topnotch IMHO they are now the first place I look.

68RCodeConv · Jun 21, 2006

With any long tube headers you have to relocate the power steering ram. Doesn't matter what brand of headers it is. The added length of the relocation bracket puts a LOT of strain on the frame rail. It is not uncommon for the bracket to pull loose from the frame rail due to the extra strain.

68conv4sp · Jun 21, 2006

Do you have a manual trans? The catalogs that sell the tri-y have a comment about them not fitting with the stock manual trans z-bar. I beleive I saw a Doug's header that is tri-y configuration, but goes around the z-bar.

Ronstang · Jun 21, 2006

68conv4sp said:
Do you have a manual trans? The catalogs that sell the tri-y have a comment about them not fitting with the stock manual trans z-bar. I beleive I saw a Doug's header that is tri-y configuration, but goes around the z-bar.

I find it hard to believe that the standard Tri-Ys will not fit with a manual transmission considering they were developed for the original Shelbys which were MOSTLY manual transmission vehicles. That simply does not compute.

Jester67 · Jun 21, 2006

68RCodeConv said:
With any long tube headers you have to relocate the power steering ram. Doesn't matter what brand of headers it is. The added length of the relocation bracket puts a LOT of strain on the frame rail. It is not uncommon for the bracket to pull loose from the frame rail due to the extra strain.

MAC has long tubes that do not require a power steering relocation bracket. But i do agree that if you are going to use the popular bracket it might be a good idea to add some reinforcements to it.

68conv4sp · Jun 21, 2006

As I understand it, the Hi-Po used a different exhaust manifold and a different z-bar that allowed room for the tri-y. The common 289/302 log header and z-bar apparently won't accomodate the tri-y. Auto trans is an easy and common application.

Ronstang · Jun 21, 2006

68conv4sp said:
As I understand it, the Hi-Po used a different exhaust manifold and a different z-bar that allowed room for the tri-y. The common 289/302 log header and z-bar apparently won't accomodate the tri-y. Auto trans is an easy and common application.

Sorry but that makes absolutely NO sense. With Tri-Ys you don't have exhaust manifolds anymore as they replace them. Tri-Ys were on every 65/66 Shelby and most of those were manual transmission vehicles.

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