Michael Yount
Mustang Master
I like to hear the sound of a Gale Banks-modified PowerStroke diesel with the 5" exhaust system -- you can actually hear the turbo spooling THROUGH the exhaust sound...
Why does Ford exhaust sound the best ?
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srothfuss
Last night I stabbed the same guy 7 times in a row
My all time favorite exhaust note to listen to is that of the Rolls-Royce / Merlin V12 placed in the P-51 Mustang back from WWII.
Weird, I guess my hearing is *****ed due to guns and rock concerts cause I can't tell the difference between some bowties and fords.
Theres a guy (Skip) who I work with that has a Chevy stepside w/ a 350 vortec and a flowmaster catback. His truck idle sounds just like my stang at idle. In fact once I upset a kid at work cause he thought it was Skip pulling up when it was really me.
I put a smile back on his face by giving him a ride around the lot.
Theres a guy (Skip) who I work with that has a Chevy stepside w/ a 350 vortec and a flowmaster catback. His truck idle sounds just like my stang at idle. In fact once I upset a kid at work cause he thought it was Skip pulling up when it was really me.
I put a smile back on his face by giving him a ride around the lot.
Michael Yount
Mustang Master
....yup; was gonna add earlier that my favorite sounds are V12. One of my best friends inherited a 63 250 GTE 2+2 Ferrari back in the mid-80's. It hadn't run for 9 years, and I helped with the restoration to get it running again. I'll never forget the sound of that 3.0L V12 firing up -- and at revs -- man!!
04sleeper
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Michael Yount
Mustang Master
By the way Willys - the 'big 3' last year were GM, TOYOTA and Ford based on global production numbers. Toyota passed Ford a couple of years ago. I had a Tundra pickup pass me on the interstate with V8 and duals - and it sounded (to me) just like every other V8 pick up with duals.
When the numbers are in for 2005 it's entirely possible that Toyota will be #1 in sales moving GM to #2 for the first time ---- well for the first time since they started counting. If trends continue, Ford will fall out of the top 3. Through November, GM/Ford/Chrylser sales were down 11% despite heavy incentives; Toyota/Honda were UP 6% without heavy incentives. Wonder how Ford/GM/Chrysler like the SOUND of that 'engine'?
When the numbers are in for 2005 it's entirely possible that Toyota will be #1 in sales moving GM to #2 for the first time ---- well for the first time since they started counting. If trends continue, Ford will fall out of the top 3. Through November, GM/Ford/Chrylser sales were down 11% despite heavy incentives; Toyota/Honda were UP 6% without heavy incentives. Wonder how Ford/GM/Chrysler like the SOUND of that 'engine'?
srothfuss
Last night I stabbed the same guy 7 times in a row
Michael Yount said:
All I can tell you (from an auto supplier's point of view) is that it's still business as usual for me. Dealing mostly with Chrysler, there are a ton of new products scheduled to hit the markets this year. Cross your fingers that this will help bost Chryslers come back even more. As for GM, they just pulled a program out of development (putting it on hold.)
The trend will contine: GM will shrink to a much smaller company. Ford will always be stagnet. Chrysler will continue to grow.
I really do like the sound of V12's!
Michael Yount
Mustang Master
I think you're correct on the GM/Ford front; something significant will have to change and that's sure to occur in the future, GM before Ford. Chrysler's future hinges on their bringing more cars to market that can successfully compete with the holy-quattro ---- Camry, Accord, Civic, Corolla. They've seen a temporary boost with their V8 powered rear-drive cars --- but with fuel prices assured of climbing over the long run, their spotty reputation for quality not significantly improving and no compelling small car/mid-size sedan -- they are NOT strategically positioned well for the future. Don't mistake a temporary positive hit in sales with a long term trend at Chrylser. They've got to KEEP creating the hits - and some of them have to be in smaller car segments.
Interesting though that of the America's former big 3, the only one that's not sucking wind big time is the one that was bought by a European company a few years ago.....hmmm......
Interesting though that of the America's former big 3, the only one that's not sucking wind big time is the one that was bought by a European company a few years ago.....hmmm......
as with most people on this board, I can pick out a 5.0L coming from a mile away. For seems to have that deep smooth rumble, where as chevy is more ranchy.
Even though I have been a GM fan for years, the only ford I like is the mustang
I'll still give Ford the
for there exhaust note. It's the only this GM is missing in there old muscle cars
Duro
Even though I have been a GM fan for years, the only ford I like is the mustang
I'll still give Ford the
for there exhaust note. It's the only this GM is missing in there old muscle carsDuro
srothfuss
Last night I stabbed the same guy 7 times in a row
Michael Yount said:
I whole heartedly agree. Chrysler's recent success was only for the short term. They have 0 Hybrids and probably one of the worst overall MPG ratings of all the automotive companies.
new products coming:
Replacement for the Neon.
New smaller Jeep's.
And a replacement for the Sebring / Stratus.
All of these cars look great, but without some sort of boost in reliability they will have trouble selling. I own two recent Chrysler products (02 Liberty / 01 Sebring) both of them have had a lot of problems. Oh and should I throw in the issues that Mercedes is having with reliabilty recently?
Michael Yount
Mustang Master
...I think Schrempf's ouster, and 'Dieter's' promotion to Pres/CEO/Chairman was aimed directly at solving Benz' issues which are not insignificant. Don't be surprised if they sell Chrysler....
srothfuss
Last night I stabbed the same guy 7 times in a row
Michael Yount said:
Ah... I have heard those mumblings from some of my friends at Chrysler. Most of them are planning for a mass layoff / restructuring again.
Duro: When I worked at Chrysler, I read a letter from an angry customer. A man bought a brand new Grand Caravan off the dealer lot in October (2004.) For Thanksgiving (2004) weekend, the family piled into the van to drive from Ohio to Kentucky to spend time with relatives. Halfway to Kentucky, the van's transmission let go and the van broke down. This ment the family had to take a rental car the rest of the way, leaving their brand new van at a dealer (now closed for the holiday.) The family used the rental to travel back to Ohio, leaving the van. Needless to say Chrysler paid for the rental and bought back the van. They surely have quality issues.
dont even say that!!Michael Yount said:
Its the best thing to happen to chrysler since,,,,well,,EVER!! By the way Mike I have used your projections more then once over the last year,,hope you dont mind
About chevy and ford merging!!Back to my original question,,not just today,even years ago,70,60's,50's,hell even 40's!! You ,,a car guy could tell a ford from a chevy,from a dodge!! There using pretty similar parts,I dont buy the fireing order,and cross over pipes were not real popular years ago..what gives them there unique sound??
Kevin 3 more weeks I'll have my x-pipe!!Thinking about getting some laughing gas also
Maryland Stang
Active Member
willys1 said:
The firing order, the short tube headers and the H-pipe. It's a combo thing. My '95 F-150 5.0 doesn't sound anything like my Stang despite the fact that it has the same heads and firing order. My truck sounds more like a boat but that may have something to do with the Cherry Bomb muffler. We're Redneckin' now! Run Forest run!
well the 5.0 is distinctive,,factory headers and roller cam..Im talking exhaust manifolds,no cross over pipes,ect....Maryland Stang said:
Just for an example,when I was 18 I had a 65 Lemans with a 326 dual exhaust with cherry bombs(no cross over pipe) and my cousin had a 74 Grand torino with a 302 same exhaust set up,cherry bombs no cross over pipe..the 2 motors had there own unique sound!!! Even if the exhaust pipes were the same exact size they would have there own unique sound!!
Michael Yount
Mustang Master
I've been listening to them for over 50 years now willys -- they all sound the same to me. Big blocks perhaps a bit more menacing than the small blocks -- but even that I get surprised at sometimes when they pop the hood. A 90 degree V8 is a 90 degree V8. If it's got a crossover in the exhaust or not -- that seems to be about the only difference I can hear - Ford, Chevy, Mopar, Toyota, Mercedes, BMW, Lexus, Infinity, Jag, VW, Audi.....the list, and the sound, goes on.
Not a Chevy/Ford merger -- GM is the entity that's in trouble - and Chevy along with it. Both will have to do something. GM's shareholders won't tolerate much more. They're stock is basically junk status now - huge borrowing costs because of that. Even the closing of 9 plants and laying off of 30,000 won't get it done. Ford has so many family members that are on the board and major shareholders - it'll take them a bit longer. But something's got to give.
Both of them have been trying to hire Carlos Ghosn of Nissan/Renault for the last couple of years -- unsuccessfully. He's done incredible things at Nissan in terms of their business performance and product development, and is about to turn to the Renault side of the house. If either were successful in hiring him, he would turn those car companies upside down in ways that we can't even imagine. Which is probably why he hasn't said yes yet --- they know how drastic the changes would be and they can't quite give him the autonomy he'd need to be successful. We'll see.....but something's got to change - first GM, later Ford.
Not a Chevy/Ford merger -- GM is the entity that's in trouble - and Chevy along with it. Both will have to do something. GM's shareholders won't tolerate much more. They're stock is basically junk status now - huge borrowing costs because of that. Even the closing of 9 plants and laying off of 30,000 won't get it done. Ford has so many family members that are on the board and major shareholders - it'll take them a bit longer. But something's got to give.
Both of them have been trying to hire Carlos Ghosn of Nissan/Renault for the last couple of years -- unsuccessfully. He's done incredible things at Nissan in terms of their business performance and product development, and is about to turn to the Renault side of the house. If either were successful in hiring him, he would turn those car companies upside down in ways that we can't even imagine. Which is probably why he hasn't said yes yet --- they know how drastic the changes would be and they can't quite give him the autonomy he'd need to be successful. We'll see.....but something's got to change - first GM, later Ford.
yeah,,I meant GM..But,,once again I disagree..A ford always had a distintive sound,,as did chevy from a chrysler..I dont know..seems to be a stumper!! Thanks for the info!!Michael Yount said:
I remember way back in 1987 when some guy I didn`t know in the neighbourhood a few blocks over had a brand new 87` 5.0L notch sitting in his driveway with a personalized license plate that said;
GROWLS.....this was before I had even heard one pass close by before,and I thought,hmmm,I wonder what that plate name stands for?(I`d see the odd 85-86 ,on the road back then when driving,but never really heard them up close).
A week or two later I was walking to the store and saw him pass by giving it a bit of gas and I was like holy S_it,what a sound.
Now I knew what the word on the license plate meant.
Truly a distinctive exhaust note that "growls".
GROWLS.....this was before I had even heard one pass close by before,and I thought,hmmm,I wonder what that plate name stands for?(I`d see the odd 85-86 ,on the road back then when driving,but never really heard them up close).
A week or two later I was walking to the store and saw him pass by giving it a bit of gas and I was like holy S_it,what a sound.
Now I knew what the word on the license plate meant.
Truly a distinctive exhaust note that "growls"
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Michael Yount
Mustang Master
I suspect it's a lot like people that say they can tell this beer from that one, or Coke from Pepsi, or Smirnoff from Grey Goose vodka. When they're put in blind taste tests, they more often than not can't tell which one is the one they 'think' they like.
It would be interesting to blindfold someone and have them try to ID the engine type....I bet you'd be surprised at your own response.
It would be interesting to blindfold someone and have them try to ID the engine type....I bet you'd be surprised at your own response.
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