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Will 1.6 R.R fit under stock valve covers?

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hey guys, just wondering if a set up 1.6 roller rockers will fit under a stock valve cover? Any modifications? If so, what do you have to do?
 

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hey guys, just wondering if a set up 1.6 roller rockers will fit under a stock valve cover? Any modifications? If so, what do you have to do?
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stud mount or pedestal? pedestal will fit no problem. stud mount you will have beat the baffles out, i did that to get mine to fit but now it blows oil out of the breather and onto the headers
 

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Pedestal should not be an issue.

With stud-mounted, some designs are taller/wider and you will either need to trim the oil baffle, or completely remove it

The oil baffle is located directly below the oil fill hole on the passenger side
 

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my stock ones would not fit at all with my scorpion 1.6 stud mounts. i took a lot of material out of the inside and they still wouldnt work.
 

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Out of curiousity, does one have any performance advantages over the other?
 

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Out of curiousity, does one have any performance advantages over the other?
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whats that? pedestal over stud? not really. i like my stud mounts a hell of a lot better than the pedestal ones i ran on my old setup. pedestal rockers are a huge PITA to set up right using shims to get the right preload on the lifter, it looks simple enough...just bolt em on right? no...the bolt has to be torqued down, but lets say you have a few thousands milled off your heads well now when you bolt that rocker down your going to be putting that much more pre-load on the lifter. (my heads had been shaved 3 times and this was a real problem for me) but to correct the problem you have to put shims of various thicknesses under each pedestal to raise the rocker up. it takes forever to do, bolt em on check the preload....unbolt em try a shim, rebolt em....check em...repeat.


stud mount as real easy to setup. you just tighten em till there just pusing on the pushrod and give em 1/2-3/4 of a turn to set the preload and then lock em down.

performance wise... a 1.6 RR is a 1.6 RR, the way in which it attatches to the head doesnt make a difference in power
 

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The lighter the better...

Adjustment is easier for the stud

My 1.6 Scorpions (stud) fit under my stock '93 valve covers, with a cork gasket and oil baffle removed.
 
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Hey thanks guys, well the whole point of this thread is i'm buying chrome valve covers and i really like the stock chrome valve covers but i think i'll just get some TFS valve covers and have them chromed!?



woodyy24 said:
stud mount or pedestal? pedestal will fit no problem. stud mount you will have beat the baffles out, i did that to get mine to fit but now it blows oil out of the breather and onto the headers:notnice:
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Screw that lol. Mine are stud mount....
 
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i've got some chrome valve covers with 1.7 and a b cam and have no problems
 

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I have the FRPP chrome stock-style valve covers and 1.6 roller rockers and used a Fel-Pro 1645 gasket. Works just fine.
 

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Hey thanks guys, well the whole point of this thread is i'm buying chrome valve covers and i really like the stock chrome valve covers but i think i'll just get some TFS valve covers and have them chromed!?





Screw that lol. Mine are stud mount....
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yah i know. im getting a set of tall ford racing ones tomorrow.
the guy is trading me 2 cases of diet pepsi for them
 

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woodyy24 said:
whats that? pedestal over stud? not really. i like my stud mounts a hell of a lot better than the pedestal ones i ran on my old setup. pedestal rockers are a huge PITA to set up right using shims to get the right preload on the lifter, it looks simple enough...just bolt em on right? no...the bolt has to be torqued down, but lets say you have a few thousands milled off your heads well now when you bolt that rocker down your going to be putting that much more pre-load on the lifter. (my heads had been shaved 3 times and this was a real problem for me) but to correct the problem you have to put shims of various thicknesses under each pedestal to raise the rocker up. it takes forever to do, bolt em on check the preload....unbolt em try a shim, rebolt em....check em...repeat.


stud mount as real easy to setup. you just tighten em till there just pusing on the pushrod and give em 1/2-3/4 of a turn to set the preload and then lock em down.

performance wise... a 1.6 RR is a 1.6 RR, the way in which it attatches to the head doesnt make a difference in power
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GAH i know man, i hate adjusting pedestal rockers. my pedestal crane/ford 1.7's fit under my stock valve covers but i had to take out the baffle. but now oil is getting to my intake, so i just bought some oem 95 cobra valve covers which is raised where the baffle is. don't run valve covers without baffles unless you want oil getting to your intake. its just not worth it.
 

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Thanks for the breakdown woodyy24. It was a bit daunting the first time I installed my Crane rockers but it wasn't too painful. I also had to remove my baffle.
 
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