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will 1.7 rockers and stock cam make a noticable idle.

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dastang2

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hello, i am going to put the car back togethere now and i want it to have a little bit of a noticable idle to it. i have been hearing bad things about the motorsport cams and everything else it too expensive. i was thinking about using maybe a stock HO cam or thunderbird cam since i hear it is the same as the 93 cobra cam and use 1.7's with a torker II intake and either a holley 600 or carter 650 carb, shorty headers, O/R x pipe, force mufflers and a 5 speed. anybody know this question. not sure of the year of motor, i got it from company that sells used motors from wrecked cars. all i know is that it has a fuel pump eccentric to run a mech. fuel pump and it is a roller motor. i will be using either E6 heads or 289 heads. probably the e6's though since they are rebuilt.
 

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dastang2 said:
i have been hearing bad things about the motorsport cams and everything else it too expensive.
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Look into the TFS 1 cam. Less expensive than the alphabet cams and generally makes more power.
 

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I doubt you'll be able to tell any difference at idle with 1.7's vs. 1.6's. I ran both with my E cam trying to tame the idle - and I couldn't tell any difference at all either at idle or at higher revs.
 

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Look Its Aaron said:
Look into the TFS 1 cam. Less expensive than the alphabet cams and generally makes more power.
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http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?part=TFS-51402000&N=400098+115&autoview=sku

is this the tfs stage came that you speak of. will it work well with totally stock heads and the rest of my combo. thanks. i only have 3.08 gears and a 5 speed. 3.73 one day
 

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I have 1.7s on thumper heads and the idle doesn't sound much differen't than stock, if anything its the same sound just louder.
 

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man, first of all it is safe to go with an alhpabet cam. E303,B303,F303,X303 they all are great cams and will kick some butt on the street.people just say **** like "oh those cams suck" because they are old and arent the newest stuff out. which that dont matter, ive seen stangs with E303's rape others with those new comp cam energy camshafts. i'd go with an E303 if you want a slightly rougher idle. just putting 1.7's on a stock cam will not make it lope harder, alls you are doing is increasing lift. to effect idle you need to change duration and overlap on your cam. stage 1 TFS cam is basically an E303 cam, they both have the exact effects.
 

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I did install 1.7 RR on a full stock 89gt.You will see NO difference at idle.
 

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bock. how does your F303 cam do with those tfs tw heads? im building my motor with that set up and i cant wait to see how it goes
 

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over .100 of clearance on each valves.
wan t to ear it?

check my website, i have videos
 

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this is with stock pistons. maybe you will need custom pistons witn 1.7 RR
 

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hmm im gonna be running flat top KB pistons with 2 valve releifs. thanks man, ill take a look at what it sounds like
 

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best run: 12.68 @ 111mph in a full weight 93 LX.
 

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awesome, what hp are you getting to the wheels? ( if you know)
 

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never went on a dyno....

maybe 325hp at the flywheel?!
 

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sounds nice man what for mufflers? it doesnt lope as hard as i thought it would
 

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they are dynomax super turbo
 

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oh. whats your 1/8 mile time
?
 

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i noticed a tiny difference in my car when i installed 1.7s
not neccesarily a lope, but a meatier sound.

could also be my head playing tricks so...

people i know personally all say thay it does change the sound a bit.
everyone on here says they dont.

i think they do just a bit
 

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dastang2 said:
http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?part=TFS-51402000&N=400098+115&autoview=sku

is this the tfs stage came that you speak of. will it work well with totally stock heads and the rest of my combo. thanks. i only have 3.08 gears and a 5 speed. 3.73 one day
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what summit sais is the right RPM range?
 

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Foxfan88 said:
i noticed a tiny difference in my car when i installed 1.7s
not neccesarily a lope, but a meatier sound.

could also be my head playing tricks so...

people i know personally all say thay it does change the sound a bit.
everyone on here says they dont.

i think they do just a bit
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After I put heads and 1.7RRs on it the car had the same sound, it was just deeper (before you could hear it idle, now you can feel it) and quite a bit louder above 1500 rpms.
 
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