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ridethe93GT

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a buddy of mine is wanting me to do his 5 lug disc conversion and he said he can get the axles/brakes out of a 94 but for some reason cannot get the whole rearend.......will the axles fit in his rearend??
 

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yes, but you have to use the 94-up brakes with them, they are about 0.75" wider per side I believe

the axle housings are the same width from 79-98...
 
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awesome
 

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When I put the sn95 rear in my 90 GT I was told to get the sn95 wheels for their backspacing. I never did measure it out to see how the fox wheels would have fit, but the sn95 wheels fit well in my fender wells.

I would imiagine that you should do the same with the wheels, but I can't say that it is absolutely necessary.

Good luck
 

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vristang said:
When I put the sn95 rear in my 90 GT I was told to get the sn95 wheels for their backspacing. I never did measure it out to see how the fox wheels would have fit, but the sn95 wheels fit well in my fender wells.

I would imiagine that you should do the same with the wheels, but I can't say that it is absolutely necessary.

Good luck
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He will be going to 5 Lug with the switch and will have to use SN95 Wheels. There is no such thing as 5 Lug Fox Wheels! I love the way my car looks with the slightly wider axles, tires fill out the wheel wells much better!
 

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He will be going to 5 Lug with the switch and will have to use SN95 Wheels. There is no such thing as 5 Lug Fox Wheels! I love the way my car looks with the slightly wider axles, tires fill out the wheel wells much better!
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Be careful, 5 lug wheels are available with the fox body backspacing. Just because they weren't available from the factory doesn't mean the aftermarket won't sell them to you, whether it is what you want or not.

Guess I didn't make it clear that the rear end I used was from a 95 GT so it had 5 lug axles. I had to go 5 lug anyway. There was not extra cost, but I can't rotate my wheels front to back.
 

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All he needs to do is stick with any Stock SN95 Wheel and he will be fine, I have Bullitts on my car!
 

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All he needs to do is stick with any Stock SN95 Wheel and he will be fine, I have Bullitts on my car!
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In the front as well?

How did you do the 5 lug conversion up front?
 

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In the front as well?

How did you do the 5 lug conversion up front?
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You can just use 94/95 front spindles up front. I actually did the Ford Racing M2300K kit, here is a Pic of my car finished up.

http://www.corral.net/photopost/data/500/medium/Finished.jpg

http://www.corral.net/photopost/data/500/medium/Finished1.jpg
 

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In the front as well?

How did you do the 5 lug conversion up front?
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i have never heard of anyone doing a 5 lug conversion in the back only!
 

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i have never heard of anyone doing a 5 lug conversion in the back only!
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me either...thats funny........the front is so easy to do... i did mine in like 3 hours....just take your old spindles off the ball joint...get some 5/8 washer that are about 1/3" thick and put them on the ball joint on top of the spindle,,,,bolt everything down and get some brake line fittings from advance and your front is done.....(except for the Mc stuff)
 

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I guess a little clarification is necessarry.

I was not trying to ask if he had done a 5lug conversion on the back and not the front. I was trying to ask about the backspacing.

I don't see why the Bullitts would not be available in fox body backspacing, but it is possible that they aren't.

When I did my front I used sn95 spindles and fox body wheels. It sounded like Shakerhood had done something different to use sn95 wheels up front (and I think he did).

Maybe I am the one that is different for using fox wheels?
I don't know how sn95 wheels would fit because I am already very close to rubbing on the inside well.

By fox wheels I mean fox body backspacing.
 

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vristang said:
I guess a little clarification is necessarry.

I was not trying to ask if he had done a 5lug conversion on the back and not the front. I was trying to ask about the backspacing.

I don't see why the Bullitts would not be available in fox body backspacing, but it is possible that they aren't.

When I did my front I used sn95 spindles and fox body wheels. It sounded like Shakerhood had done something different to use sn95 wheels up front (and I think he did).

Maybe I am the one that is different for using fox wheels?
I don't know how sn95 wheels would fit because I am already very close to rubbing on the inside well.

By fox wheels I mean fox body backspacing.
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What in the world kind of wheels are you running? My point somehow got taken way out in left field, if you do a SN95 Brake Conversion, then use SN95 Wheels, there are lots to pick from! Bullitts are 5 Lug and were never offered on a Fox body Car!
 

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What in the world kind of wheels are you running? My point somehow got taken way out in left field, if you do a SN95 Brake Conversion, then use SN95 Wheels, there are lots to pick from! Bullitts are 5 Lug and were never offered on a Fox body Car!
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I feel like I am not expressing myself well and I apologize because it seems to be getting you all wound up.

No, the bullitts were not offered from the factory on the fox body. That does not mean that an aftermarket wheel manufacturer did not produce bullitts with fox body backspacing. I am trying to verify that you have the same setup up in front as I do, except that you are running sn95 wheels and I am running fox body backspacing wheels.

As I understand it the ford 5lug kit has standard sn95 spindles. If so, then the only fundamental difference between your setup and mine is that I am using fox body backspacing.

What year is your car, maybe that can account for sn95 wheels clearing your fenders and not clearing my fenders?

Have you lowered the car?

The point of confusion for us seems to be that I call any wheel that uses fox body backspacing, a fox wheel. That means that by my definition a Bullitt wheel with fox body backspacing (whether 5 or 4 lug) is a fox wheel. Maybe we are defining the same term differently?
 

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I feel like I am not expressing myself well and I apologize because it seems to be getting you all wound up.

No, the bullitts were not offered from the factory on the fox body. That does not mean that an aftermarket wheel manufacturer did not produce bullitts with fox body backspacing. I am trying to verify that you have the same setup up in front as I do, except that you are running sn95 wheels and I am running fox body backspacing wheels.

As I understand it the ford 5lug kit has standard sn95 spindles. If so, then the only fundamental difference between your setup and mine is that I am using fox body backspacing.

What year is your car, maybe that can account for sn95 wheels clearing your fenders and not clearing my fenders?

Have you lowered the car?

The point of confusion for us seems to be that I call any wheel that uses fox body backspacing, a fox wheel. That means that by my definition a Bullitt wheel with fox body backspacing (whether 5 or 4 lug) is a fox wheel. Maybe we are defining the same term differently?
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I am not wound up at all, yes my Kit used 94/95 Spindles, Yes the car is lowered about 3/4" with the Bullitt Suspension, no it does not rub anything. I just cant understand the purpose of putting SN95 parts on your car and then putting a different backspaced wheel on, instead of sticking with what you know works in SN95 wheels. Maybe you have 96-98 front spindles which are slightly wider than the 94/95, or even worse 99-04 Spindles, if you look at your spindles your Part Number should begin with F4 or F5, then you will know they are 1994 or 1995 Spindles.
 

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I am not wound up at all, yes my Kit used 94/95 Spindles, Yes the car is lowered about 3/4" with the Bullitt Suspension, no it does not rub anything. I just cant understand the purpose of putting SN95 parts on your car and then putting a different backspaced wheel on, instead of sticking with what you know works in SN95 wheels. Maybe you have 96-98 front spindles which are slightly wider than the 94/95, or even worse 99-04 Spindles, if you look at your spindles your Part Number should begin with F4 or F5, then you will know they are 1994 or 1995 Spindles.
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same here, i put Bullitts on my '84 with '95 spindles, 17x8 shod with 245/45's...the only time i have rubbing in the front is if i crank the wheel all the way one direction, and it's not obnoxious rubbing....just a hair

the back's bolted right up with the same rim and i could still put them in another 1/2-3/4" if i wanted to...if i had an sn-95 axle out back, i'd run 17x9 Bullitt's-

at any rate, the backspacing shouldn't be any deeper than 6" (i believe) if you're going to run a sn-95 axle width on a fox mustang...
 

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Maybe you have 96-98 front spindles which are slightly wider than the 94/95, or even worse 99-04 Spindles, if you look at your spindles your Part Number should begin with F4 or F5, then you will know they are 1994 or 1995 Spindles.
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Thank you! This is exactly what I was trying to get at. I don't know why I can't express that. I will check my spindles over the weekend. Now that I am thinking about it, I did not see the spindles on the 95 before they were pulled. The guy at the yard told me they came from a 95, so I went with that. I doubt they would have been from a 99-04, because I never saw one of these cars in that yard.

Thanks for the patience. I appreciate the help in figuring out how my car is different than yours.
 

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I used 90 Ford Ranger Rotors up front they are 5 lugs and Stange 5 lug axles in the back. That's how I did my swap. You can also use the axles out of a Ranger but you'll have to take two axles out of two different trucks because there two different length. You'll need the longer one out of the two.
 

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same here, i put Bullitts on my '84 with '95 spindles, 17x8 shod with 245/45's...the only time i have rubbing in the front is if i crank the wheel all the way one direction, and it's not obnoxious rubbing....just a hair

the back's bolted right up with the same rim and i could still put them in another 1/2-3/4" if i wanted to...if i had an sn-95 axle out back, i'd run 17x9 Bullitt's-

at any rate, the backspacing shouldn't be any deeper than 6" (i believe) if you're going to run a sn-95 axle width on a fox mustang...
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That might be your wheel slightly rubbing on the A Arm, if you want to eliminate it, just install some rack limiters. They are dirt cheap and you can get them from the Dealer.
 
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